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 * The following is an archived discussion of a featured list nomination. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the article's talk page or in Wikipedia talk:Featured list candidates. No further edits should be made to this page.

The list was promoted by Giants2008 22:04, 19 March 2012.

List of songs recorded by Rihanna

 * Nominator(s): Aaron  &bull; You  Da  One 18:15, 28 January 2012 (UTC)

I am nominating this for featured list because... I have worked tirelessly on this article to completely overhaul it and make it a better standalone list of all Rihanna's song. Issues from the previous FAC have been address, as inline citations for songwriters have been provided. Media is provided throughout as well. Aaron  &bull; You Da  One 18:15, 28 January 2012 (UTC)


 * 1) Prose
 * a Barbadian R&B recording artist - Remove R&B
 * Removed R&B Aaron  &bull; You  Da  One
 * as well as collaborations with other recording artists on duets and featured songs on their respective albums the structure and wording looks repetitive.
 * Reworded. Aaron  &bull; You  Da  One
 * on the singer's debut album Music of the Sun - the singer's can easily be replaced with her in this sentence
 * Changed to "her" Aaron  &bull; You  Da  One
 * Critically acclaimed - This is fanaticism. You can instead use Grammy-winning
 * Changed to "Award winning" Aaron  &bull; You  Da  One
 * produced 10 songs - co-produced?
 * Changed to co-produced Aaron  &bull; You  Da  One
 * The songs lyrics were written by Evan "Kidd" Bogart and J. R. Rotem.[5] - This sentence should come before - to avoid confusion.
 * Moved to before the sample. Aaron  &bull; You  Da  One
 * The release of Rihanna's third studio album Good Girl Gone Bad, included a combination of songwriters and producers whom she had previously collaborated with as well as some new additions. - The release?
 * Removed "The release" Aaron  &bull; You  Da  One
 * Sturken and Rogers contributed significantly less songs - Does not make sense to me
 * Sturken and Rogers contributed significantly less songs to the project than they had previously done so, writing and producing two songs out of 13. - This is in need of proper structuring and re-writing.
 * Reworded Aaron  &bull; You  Da  One
 * New writers and producers - Is new the correct word to be used?
 * Changed to "Different" Aaron  &bull; You  Da  One
 *  The release of the album, Good Girl Gone Bad: Reloaded, featured new songs written by former boyfriend Chris Brown and Maroon 5. - The release?
 * Re-worded Aaron  &bull; You  Da  One
 * Why "Tricky" Stewart?
 * I have previously said 'Christopher "Tricky" Stewart', so the second time I said "Tricky" Stewart Aaron  &bull; You  Da  One
 * Since you are talking about the wring process, it should be Christopher Stewart. Jivesh 1205 (Talk) 12:45, 30 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Changed to their names. Aaron  &bull; You  Da  One
 * Stargate do not penned, they produce under that name.
 * Changed to "produced" Aaron  &bull; You  Da  One
 * You should have written their names Aaron. Jivesh 1205 (Talk) 12:45, 30 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Changed to their names. Aaron  &bull; You  Da  One
 * The lyrical content of Rated R cast an ominous, dark and foreboding tone over the album - Does it sound good?
 * I think so lol. Aaron  &bull; You  Da  One
 * The lyrical content of Rated R cast an ominous, dark and foreboding tone over the album. See it now. Jivesh 1205 (Talk) 12:45, 30 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Re-worded Aaron  &bull; You  Da  One
 *  more lighter persona - Are you sure it was lighter? Wasn't she on the contrary showing her insecurities on that album?
 * Rated R was darker and more vulnerable, Loud was not an insecure album, it was the opposite. Aaron  &bull; You  Da  One
 * So "was darker and more vulnerable" = Lighter? Lol :P Jivesh 1205 (Talk) 12:45, 30 January 2012 (UTC)
 * What? Rated R was dark and vulnerable. But this point is about Loud, which was not vulnerable.
 * Oh My God in Heaven. :D Aaron, you are contradicting yourself... "was darker and more vulnerable" and "more lighter persona". Jivesh 1205 (Talk) 12:55, 30 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Sorry partly my mistake. I misinterpreted your sentence because of that comma. Remove it. Jivesh 1205 (Talk) 13:04, 30 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Removed. Aaron  &bull; You  Da  One
 * Rihanna's fifth studio album, Loud, displayed the singer return to her dancehall roots seen on Music of the Sun and A Girl like Me. - Bad structure
 * Reworded Aaron  &bull; You  Da  One
 * penned three tracks for the album, - add including
 * Added Aaron  &bull; You  Da  One
 * the reggae infused song - Source it
 * Sourced from MTV Aaron  &bull; You  Da  One
 * The singers - Spot the mistake
 * Apostrophe added Aaron  &bull; You  Da  One
 * The singers sixth studio album in as many years, Talk That Talk, offered a dance-pop, which tracks produced by Calvin Harris, Dr. Luke and Stargate - Reading and understanding this is a pain. :D
 * Lol. Reworded. Aaron  &bull; You  Da  One


 * I see you have added information about chart performance of some singles. I don't know if they are needed here. Better ask someone else's opinion. Jivesh 1205 (Talk) 12:16, 30 January 2012 (UTC)


 * Support I am satisfied with both the prose and the table. Good attempt overall. Jivesh 1205 (Talk) 12:06, 23 February 2012 (UTC)


 * Titles that start with "A", "An" or "The" should be alphabetized under the second word in the title. You need to fix this. Jimknut (talk) 00:23, 31 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Have move "A Girl like Me", "A Million Miles Away", "The Last Song" and "The Last Time" to sections G, M and L. Aaron  &bull; You  Da  One 16:11, 1 February 2012 (UTC)

— Status  &#x7B;talk contribs 11:43, 2 February 2012 (UTC)
 * Unreleased songs can't possibly have a year attached to them. The released song section denotes the year the album was released, which doesn't apply to unreleased songs.
 * Removed. Aaron  &bull; You  Da  One
 * No need to say "soundtrack" at the end of any titles. Unless it's the literal name of the soundtrack.
 * Yeah it is apart of the name, as Confessions of a Shopaholic is a film. Aaron  &bull; You  Da  One
 * What I mean is the title of the soundtrack isn't "Confessions of a Shopaholic Soundtrack" it's something like "Confessions of a Shopaholic: Motion Picture Soundtrack" or something like that, which is usually just shortened to the film's name. — Status  &#x7B;talk contribs 19:49, 2 February 2012 (UTC)
 * If you're gonna do the Other performer(s) section like you do, you might as well just rename it to Artist(s). And add Rihanna's name to each where she performs solo. Either that or remove the out of place "feat." in the section.
 * I don't get what you mean? Could you do an example on "All of the Lights" please? Aaron  &bull; You  Da  One
 * Do either this or this (B section). — Status  &#x7B;talk contribs 19:49, 2 February 2012 (UTC)
 * I did the first one. Thanks. Aaron  &bull; You  Da  One 22:48, 2 February 2012 (UTC)


 * There is absoultely no reason to include chart positions in the lead. This isn't a discography; it's about the song's itself. Their sound, producers, etc. — Status  &#x7B;talk contribs 17:00, 4 February 2012 (UTC)

— Status  &#x7B;talk contribs 05:09, 25 February 2012 (UTC)
 * I don't see any reason for the third paragraph to be on its own. It can certainly fit into the second, for now.
 * I don't like the first sentence. It doesn't flow very well with me. Maybe split "...and has collaborated with other artists for duets and featured songs on their respective albums and charity singles." into a new sentence?
 * "After signing a six album record contract with Def Jam Recordings" --> Doesn't really matter how many albums the contract called for.
 * "songs included on her" --> included isn't needed.
 * "Award winning songwriter Diane Warren co-wrote the title track,[2][3] while Grammy Award-winning singer-songwriter Deniece Williams co-wrote the song "Willing to Wait"." Not sure why these two songs are important.
 * Because they are very notable songwriters. Such writers aren't usually enlisted for an unknown singers debut album. Aaron  &bull; You  Da  One
 * I understand that, but it's not like they were released as singles or anything. They never even charted. Not notable at all. <font face="Arial" size="2em">— Status  &#x7B;<sup style="margin-left:0.37ex;">talk <sub style="margin-left:-3ex;">contribs 03:54, 1 March 2012 (UTC)
 * Let's use either "Christopher "Tricky" Stewart" or "Tricky Stewart" for "Christopher Stewart", as he is commonly known as "Tricky".
 * "The re-release of the album, Good Girl Gone Bad: Reloaded, featured new songs written by former boyfriend Chris Brown and Maroon 5." --> "The album was re-released in 2008 featured new songs written by then-boyfriend Chris Brown and Maroon 5."
 * "Rihanna's fourth studio effort" Not sure about the use of the word "effort". It makes it sound like it's her fourth try to get something right.
 * Done all. Aaron  &bull; You  Da  One

Everything looks good. Support <font face="Arial" size="2em">— Status  &#x7B;<sup style="margin-left:0.37ex;">talk <sub style="margin-left:-3ex;">contribs 01:04, 12 March 2012 (UTC)

Soft Oppose on :
 * All pictures need alts — Tomica   (talk)  22:50, 2 February 2012 (UTC)
 * I just saw you already started to doing the alts, however, they should be more detailed. Please look how they look at "Unfaithful".— Tomica   (talk)  23:09, 2 February 2012 (UTC)
 * They are fine lol. Aaron  &bull; You  Da  One
 * I doubt. They should be informational. — Tomica   (talk)  00:26, 3 February 2012 (UTC)
 * I've expanded ones which can be expanded. Other's there is simply nothing else to say. Aaron  &bull; You  Da  One
 * The caption on the first picture is awkward. I mean you are preparing this for featured list right? There should be a near perfection level.— Tomica   (talk)  22:50, 2 February 2012 (UTC)
 * It's fine. That's what he did. Aaron  &bull; You  Da  One
 * Who? Plus in also needs alt. — Tomica   (talk)  00:26, 3 February 2012 (UTC)
 * Sean Paul? The first one you mentioned? Aaron  &bull; You  Da  One
 * Many of which have been released as successful singles around the world. ---> Mmm, I know that this is a fact, but I am not sure that it should be included in the leads prose. It's just not for the lead, in my opinion. — Tomica   (talk)  22:50, 2 February 2012 (UTC)
 * Removed. Aaron  &bull; You  Da  One
 * Award winning songwriter Diane Warren co-wrote the title track,[2][3] whilst Grammy Award winning singer-songwriter co-wrote the song "Willing to Wait". ---> Can't understdand for who are you talking in the section part of the sentence? — Tomica   (talk)  22:50, 2 February 2012 (UTC)
 * Ooops, it's Deniece Williams. Aaron  &bull; You  Da  One
 * In the unreleased songs section, "Saxon" is actually "Red Lipstick". Originally it should have been released under that title, cause its basically the same melody as the song "Saxon" by Chase and Status. It's credited in the booklet as it contains the sample. So it should be removed. — Tomica   (talk)  22:50, 2 February 2012 (UTC)
 * Removed. Aaron  &bull; You  Da  One
 * I can still see it. lol — Tomica   (talk)  00:29, 3 February 2012 (UTC)
 * I thought I'd removed it. Aaron  &bull; You  Da  One
 * I really don't think Jamie xx picture is needed. They are kind of non-notable for the list, and co-wrote only one song.— Tomica   (talk)  22:50, 2 February 2012 (UTC)
 * If they are mentioned in the article then they are allowed to stay. Aaron  &bull; You  Da  One

It's a really good effort, but are think they are still here and there issues that should be resolved. Obviously, my vote can change or at least removed when the issues are resolved. — Tomica   (talk)  22:50, 2 February 2012 (UTC)
 * You resolved all the issues, however, I still don't like how the alts look. For example, look how Timberlake's caption looks, A picture of a man. Awkward. This picture was part of "Rehab" and look how the alt was back then, A profile picture of young man who is speaking into a microphone. You can use this one and improve others one. There are a lot of alts which are poor. — Tomica   (talk)  18:45, 8 February 2012 (UTC)
 * Profile picture is wrong though. A profile picture is like on facebook. A profile shot is right. Aaron  &bull; You  Da  One 18:49, 8 February 2012 (UTC)
 * Leaning to support, but I am concerned with the incomplete list tag. Why is placed ? — Tomica   (talk)  19:43, 27 February 2012 (UTC)
 * Look on the talk page. There are songs without songwriters sources. There are also unreleased songs without known songwriters. Aaron  &bull; You  Da  One 19:47, 27 February 2012 (UTC)
 * fthis for writers of "Turn Up the Music", until the Fortune booklet is out? — Tomica   (talk)  20:17, 27 February 2012 (UTC)
 * Does that include Rihanna's bit? Aaron  &bull; You  Da  One 20:26, 27 February 2012 (UTC)
 * Nope. But include the core writers of the song. Is there a credit for Spears' part on "S&M"? I doubt, and I think you can use this source and write the authors. — Tomica   (talk)  22:13, 28 February 2012 (UTC)
 * I have. And the same writers wrote Spears' verse. It's logged on ASCAP. Aaron  &bull; You  Da  One 22:49, 28 February 2012 (UTC)
 * Support. I still doubt about the tag on the page, but all in all the list has improved and satisfies my criteria. — Tomica   (talk)  22:57, 28 February 2012 (UTC)


 * Support Happy that the list now meets the criteria. NapHit (talk) 22:47, 23 February 2012 (UTC)

Support – looks great after all the scrutinizing; everything is organized and in its place. —<font size="2" face="Times New Roman" color="black"> WP: PENGUIN · [ TALK ]  13:28, 18 March 2012 (UTC)


 * Support After some hard work from Aaron, I am now convinced that this article meets the FL criteria - great job! Although I don't envy you having to update it every time Rihanna releases a new album... One final thing I think it might be worth including would be a short paragraph (or maybe just a sentence or two) on the unreleased songs, just to explain what they are and maybe give one or two examples of why they were never released. This could go either at the end of the lead, or at the start of the Unreleased songs section. Anyway, excellent work! A Thousand Doors (talk &#124; contribs) 19:24, 10 March 2012 (UTC)
 * Thanks :). Aaron  &bull; You  Da  One 19:31, 10 March 2012 (UTC)

Comments


 * I randomly hit N in the contents and it didn't take me down to N on the list so double check they all work.
 * Fixed. Aaron  &bull; You  Da  One
 * The images seem to go in alphabetical order of song name except for the picture of Britney Spears for S&M, which should go next to Stupid in Love.
 * Okay, thanks for telling me. Someone else added that one. Aaron  &bull; You  Da  One
 * The images of Spears, Jackson and Lavigne have no reference but all the others do despite conveying largely similar information.
 * Added. Aaron  &bull; You  Da  One
 * You've included some songs with N/A for the writers so I see no reason to not include the various songs on the talk page as I'm sure you can find a reference saying Rihanna recorded them even if not for the writers. Although I do agree with the reviewer who noted N/A is probably not the most appropriate way to denote this as the song does have writers even if they are not known.
 * Change the only one to the Unknown template. Brown's album hasn't been released so that's why the credits are unknown, but we know Rihanna is on the remix, so that's the difference and why it is sourced. The ones on the talk page are not sourced. Aaron  &bull; You  Da  One
 * I don't understand "Fourth studio album (not Rated R)", went to check the reference for clarification and it is not mentioned in the reference, presumably just an error in referencing but clarification on what that means would be helpful.
 * Has been removed. Aaron  &bull; You  Da  One
 * Does the Year denote the year the song was recorded or released? Recorded would make more sense given the title of the article but they seem like release years, again clarification would help.
 * Recorded. Aaron  &bull; You  Da  One
 * Rihanna has lots of remixes but you've only included two, have you got specific criteria for when to include a remix?
 * They aren't re-recorded studio songs from her albums though. "Birthday Cake" and "S&M" were re-produced and feature a guest vocal from other singers, and were released as single. Aaron  &bull; You  Da  One
 * Any B-sides?
 * No. Aaron  &bull; You  Da  One
 * I'm not sure if it's necessary to include the piano version of Love the Way You Lie, I take it there are no further acoustic versions or anything like that of her other songs?
 * It was included on Loud as song and is different in both vocal, composition and production. Aaron  &bull; You  Da  One

I'm not familiar enough with featured lists to support or oppose but the comments might help. Sanders11 (talk) 18:13, 4 March 2012 (UTC)
 * There seems to be some inconsistency in linking the writers, some are linked on every occasion and some only on first appearance.
 * All are linked now. Aaron  &bull; You  Da  One
 * Justin Timberlake for Rehab isn't so double check for more please.
 * If I Never See Your Face Again has two originating albums, surely it can only originate from one album no matter how many albums it appears on.
 * The original, which didn't feature Rihanna, is on the standard version of It Won't Be Soon Before Long, however, the remix featuring Rihanna was released as a single from both artists re-releases of both their albums. Aaron  &bull; You  Da  One
 * The title of the column is originating album, in my opinion you should only have the original album that this version appeared on, whether it was the Maroon 5 album or the Rihanna one, or try and come up with a different column heading.
 * Why three refs for the Bob Marley cover?
 * They confirm that Rihanna covered it and that Marley was the songwriter. Aaron  &bull; You  Da  One
 * That shouldn't require three refs, one that she recorded it and one that he wrote it should suffice. I would also suggest formatting the refs so they are vertical rather than horizontal.
 * Have you intentionally not included the Bob Marley cover that is on Good Girl Gone Bad Live? Technically that was recorded so you should consider including it.
 * It's not a released studio recorded song though. Aaron  &bull; You  Da  One
 * That's fine, I wasn't particularly bothered either way but just wanted to flag it up.
 * You've named the deluxe version of Good Girl Gone Bad as the originating album for tracks from it but not noted the deluxe version of the album for tracks from the other album's deluxe versions - not sure if it's worth adding (deluxe version) or something to such tracks.
 * Only Good Girl Gone Bad got a re-release so I'm not really sure what your point is here. Aaron  &bull; You  Da  One
 * It was a suggestion that you could find some way to express when tracks only appear on specific versions of albums. Again not necessary to do, was just something that crossed my mind
 * I have struck the points that have been changed. I'm afraid I stand by my position that I don't feel it is appropriate for me to support or oppose as I am such a casual editor these days and am not up to scratch on the guidelines. Sanders11 (talk) 16:31, 11 March 2012 (UTC)
 * Have done some of them. Thanks. Aaron  &bull; You  Da  One


 * Comments
 * The Avril Lavigne caption needs a closing quote on the song's name.
 * There is? Lol. Aaron  &bull; You  Da  One
 * "interpolates Avril Lavigne's song "I'm with You. Due to the" - no, there isn't. -- Pres N  23:58, 9 March 2012 (UTC)
 * Oh sorry I was looking at the "Cheers (Drink to That)" caption. Added. Aaron  &bull; You  Da  One
 * Barbadian caption needs a hyphen between reggae infused.
 * Added. Aaron  &bull; You  Da  One
 * Remove the space before the reference in the Sean Combs caption.
 * Removed. Aaron  &bull; You  Da  One
 * E,J,N,V,X, and Z don't go anywhere from the table of contents.
 * Shall I remove them then? Aaron  &bull; You  Da  One
 * Sure, though isn't there an "N" song? -- Pres N  23:58, 9 March 2012 (UTC)
 * Yeah, I fixed that one. Okay, I removed the others.
 * I'm not comfortable supporting even if you address these until Sanders' comments above are resolved, especially about the inclusion criteria for singles, as well as Status coming back to confirm that his comments have been addressed.
 * I have asked Status to look back over as well as Sanders. But I looked and Sanders contributions and he/she doesn't come on Wikipedia often. Aaron  &bull; You  Da  One
 * I also strongly recomend that you archive the references via webcite or web archive (and the |archiveurl= and |archivedate= paremeters in the references) - while not an FLC criteria, if the websites ever go away or change to lose the information (like, say, that Amazon cite) then you end up with chunks of the article unsourced. -- Pres N  20:05, 9 March 2012 (UTC)
 * I have tried that website but it doesn't seem to work for me. Aaron  &bull; You  Da  One
 * Which one? as I used webcite earlier today... -- Pres N  23:58, 9 March 2012 (UTC)
 * Yeah it is that one. I tried using it and a friend told me how, but the link didn't work. Aaron  &bull; You  Da  One 01:03, 10 March 2012 (UTC)
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