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The list was promoted by Giants2008 via FACBot (talk) 00:26, 7 June 2021 (UTC).

List of suines

 * Nominator(s):  Pres N  14:03, 25 April 2021 (UTC)

With a set of 10 lists for the Carnivora animal order done and another list for cervids (deer) nearing promotion, it seems I'm embarking on a second quest to make FLs for the animals in the order Artiodactyla. After deer, our second stop is here at Suina, aka "pigs": since there's only 18 swine in one family and 3 peccaries in another, related family, instead of sticking to one-family-per-list I'm listing them together as a suborder. Our 21 pigs are all pretty similar to each other- big or little, more or less hair, big or small tusks, but all largely recognizable as a pig. There's quite a few species in Southeast Asia with low populations that aren't as well documented as others are, and of course the wild boar has around 2 billion members of the domestic pig subspecies. This list follows the patterns set by the prior 11 lists, and so hopefully is pretty solid. Thanks for reviewing! -- Pres N  14:03, 25 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Support - I got nothing :-) -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 07:20, 26 April 2021 (UTC)

Comments
 * "ruminant hoofed mammals" sea of blue.
 * Fixed


 * Why is "clade" linked to "cladistics" when we have an article on clade?
 * Fixed


 * Southeast Asia typically capitalised S of Southeast.
 * Fixed


 * "One species, Heude's pig, went extinct in the 20th century." our article says "It is found in Laos and Vietnam. It is virtually unknown and was feared extinct, until the discovery of a skull from a recently killed individual in the Annamite Range, Laos, in 1995" so perhaps clarify that it was declared extinct by the IUCN which would be technically 100% spot on, right?
 * Fixed


 * "21 species of Suina" vs 22 in the IUCN infobox. Perhaps you mean 21 extant species of Suina?
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 * "Four Indonesian islands" do these have names?
 * Fixed


 * Just clicked on this ref which starts "At present, 17 extant species of pig are recognized in the family Suidae..." but I count 19 in this article, or 18 if you axe the "extinct" one. Is this source correct/reliable or what's going on?
 * That source (by a task force of the IUCN) is not including the Bola Batu babirusa, which you'll note is marked "NE" (not evaluated) as its IUCN status. That pig is present in MSW3, the base of the classification schema used in this article, but the IUCN holds that the evidence is shaky enough that it may just be a subspecies of the North Sulawesi babirusa. I left it in here, since there wasn't a consensus that it isn't a species I could use to override the MSW3 categorization.


 * Link tuber first time round.
 * Fixed


 * Categorised as "placental mammals" but no indication of this the lead.
 * I'm not sure how to do that without reintroducing the sea of blue you commented on- all of Artiodactyla is placental mammals, as it includes all mammals that aren't egg-laying or marsupials. There's no rule that I'm aware of that all categories must be explicitly explained in the lead? -- Pres N  21:18, 4 May 2021 (UTC)


 * Ref 42 has spaced hyphen, should be en-dash.
 * Fixed

That's all I can find. The Rambling Man (Stay alert! Control the virus! Save lives!&#33;!&#33;) 18:13, 2 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Responded; thanks for reviewing! -- Pres N  21:18, 4 May 2021 (UTC)
 * No worries, category issue notwithstanding, I'm happy to support this. The Rambling Man (Stay alert! Control the virus! Save lives!&#33;!&#33;) 21:24, 4 May 2021 (UTC)


 *  Support on prose. I didn't find anything major, seems to be well put together + written Eddie891 Talk Work 15:54, 29 May 2021 (UTC)

Is 100 Animals to See Before They Die really a RS? That is the only sourcing question I could come up with -- In actu (Guerillero) Parlez Moi 03:05, 2 June 2021 (UTC)
 * eh, I don't want to argue for it. Replaced with a couple other books (it was the only one I had access to that had both size and feeding). -- Pres N  04:11, 2 June 2021 (UTC)
 * Support Sounds good -- In actu (Guerillero) Parlez Moi 01:00, 3 June 2021 (UTC)
 * just to check, I'm assuming based on your support that you've done a source review? (looking to cross it off the Featured list candidates/backlog/items) Aza24 (talk) 08:33, 6 June 2021 (UTC)
 * Yes, I did -- In actu (Guerillero) Parlez Moi 13:35, 6 June 2021 (UTC)

Giants2008 ( Talk ) 22:14, 6 June 2021 (UTC)
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