Wikipedia:Featured list candidates/List of teams and cyclists in the 2016 Tour de France/archive1


 * The following is an archived discussion of a featured list nomination. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the article's talk page or in Wikipedia talk:Featured list candidates. No further edits should be made to this page.

The list was promoted by PresN via FACBot (talk) 00:33, 22 September 2016 (UTC).

List of teams and cyclists in the 2016 Tour de France

 * Nominator(s): Yellow Dingo&#160;(talk) 10:45, 16 August 2016 (UTC)

I am nominating this for featured list because I enjoy cycling and follow the Tour de France every year. I think it meets the criteria. This page is based on the FLC List of teams and cyclists in the 2016 Tour de France. Please note that I currently have another FLC open but it has four supports and no unanswered comments so I think it is ok to open this one. If any of the FLC delegates disagree feel free to close. - Yellow Dingo&#160;(talk) 10:45, 16 August 2016 (UTC)


 * Support I have worked on getting 2012, 2013 and 2015 (review) to FL and had previously brought the list up to standard. It must be noted that Yellow has only contributed to the prose, so full credit must be given to and  for their very time consuming edits. BaldBoris 17:48, 29 August 2016 (UTC)


 * Thanks for your support. An yes i whole-heartily agree that credit must go to HelSimki and Ytfc23 as well as Tomrtn and yourself for your great work. - Yellow Dingo&#160;(talk) 06:04, 30 August 2016 (UTC)

Edit: I should have been clear that my support was for the layout and tables, which have had no issues. Prose now looks in shape now and I fully support it. BaldBoris 17:45, 19 September 2016 (UTC)

The cites needs filling properly, which I thought I had done previously? I can do it for you, as I'm a stickler with them. BaldBoris 18:15, 19 September 2016 (UTC)
 * Sorry, is there something I need to do here? Or is it fixed. I happy to do it if needed. - <b style="color:#FFCC33">Yellow</b> <b style="color:brown">Dingo</b>&#160;<b style="color:BLUE">(talk)</b> 21:48, 19 September 2016 (UTC)
 * Now worries, I sorted it. BaldBoris 23:48, 19 September 2016 (UTC)

This is just from the lead. I'll list more issues later.-- Cheetah  (talk)  06:49, 8 September 2016 (UTC)
 * Oppose
 * The first two paragraphs of the lead should be combined. The first paragraph, right now, is too thin, the second is twice as large and the third is twice as large as the second.
 * What does "UCI" mean?
 * into the race by the race organisers - using the word "race" twice is redundant. Also, there's only one organiser listed, why does it say "organisers"?
 * The word "peloton" is linked on the 2nd instance; should be the 1st.
 * consisted of 198 riders.[4] These came from 32 countries - isn't it better to say "consisted of 198 riders from 32 countries"?
 * 174 riders completed  - starting a sentence with numbers should be avoided
 * 174 riders completed the race and 22 withdrew, that's 196. It was stated earlier that 198 started, so what happened to the remaining two riders?
 * Chris Froome (Team Sky) - Isn't it better to say "Chris Froome from Team Sky"? This applies to all riders mentioned in the lead
 * How many stages are there in total? The lead doesn't state it
 * Frenchman Romain Bardet ( - this bracket never closes
 * Peter Sagan (Tinkoff) and Sagan also won - Shouldn't it be "Peter Sagan (Tinkoff) who also won"?


 * Thanks for the review. I have fixed all your issues except one. That is your point about the mentioning of the teams. I followed a consistent style found used in 5 FLs (1, 2, 3, 4, 5), at least 1 FA (1) and multiple GAs (Examples: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6). As quite a few cyclists have there team after them in brackets in this particular list, I think it would become repetitive to use "from Team X". - <b style="color:#FFCC33">Yellow</b> <b style="color:brown">Dingo</b>&#160;<b style="color:BLUE">(talk)</b> 07:08, 8 September 2016 (UTC)

Continued.. -- Cheetah  (talk)  03:27, 9 September 2016 (UTC)
 * The points classification was won for the fifth consecutive year by Peter Sagan (Tinkoff) who also won the combativity award. - I don't like that "won" is used twice in one sentence. Can you reword this?
 *  Amaury Sport Organisation (ASO), the race organisers - should be organiser
 * These are great news today - where's the "!"?
 * the third consecutive Tour de France that Bora–Argon 18 had been - later in that paragraph, it is mentioned that the same happened to the Fortuneo–Vital Concept team. I think it should be "the third consecutive Tour de France that Bora–Argon 18 and Fortuneo–Vital Concept had been"
 * Can you mention what order the teams are listed in the "Teams' section as well as the "by team" subsection? was there a draw placed? I can only guess
 * Where did you get the time from? I wanted to check if it's sourced, I couldn't.
 * The winner's time should be marked differently because whatever the "legend" says does not apply to it
 * It has to mention why it's missing every tenth number from the "By starting number" table.
 * The 198 riders that will compete - "The 198 riders that competed"


 * Thanks. All done. - <b style="color:#FFCC33">Yellow</b> <b style="color:brown">Dingo</b>&#160;<b style="color:BLUE">(talk)</b> 05:50, 9 September 2016 (UTC)


 * Support The only issue remaining that I have is I can't find out how the starting numbers are assigned. If you add that info as well, That'd be over the top.-- Cheetah  (talk)  06:34, 9 September 2016 (UTC)


 * Thanks for your support and thorough review. About the numbers, they are assigned based on the result of the team leader in the previous Tour. Should I add a note about it? - <b style="color:#FFCC33">Yellow</b> <b style="color:brown">Dingo</b>&#160;<b style="color:BLUE">(talk)</b> 06:36, 9 September 2016 (UTC)
 * Yes, a footnote with a reference would be beneficial.-- Cheetah  (talk)  06:46, 9 September 2016 (UTC)
 * Done. - <b style="color:#FFCC33">Yellow</b> <b style="color:brown">Dingo</b>&#160;<b style="color:BLUE">(talk)</b> 06:58, 9 September 2016 (UTC)


 * Comment I have to say that a couple of the suggestions by are unnecessary. None of these are used in the other FL cycling lists.
 * The entry in the legend for explaining why Froome's time is marked differently: The "Time" column is explained as the difference to the winner of the GC, which is explained as being denoted by a yellow jersey icon.
 * The explanation for why there's no tenth number: I mean, really, is this needed?
 * The note in the "By team" section is duplicate of the one in "Teams": Both should be a sentence in the lead.

Those were just his comments, not what you have to change. Other ones were good mind you. BaldBoris 23:35, 11 September 2016 (UTC)
 * I partly agree with your points. The double dagger can be removed and the note about the time added to the yellow jersey in the legend table. Something like "Denotes the winner of the general classification with his full race time listed". As for your second point, to be honest, even after adding that note, I don't understand why there is no tenth number. Why are the cyclists not assigned with the tenth number? is it bad luck? Taboo? I have no idea. And the third point, yes, I agree, the notes can be removed and the order explanation be stated in the lead. -- Cheetah  (talk)  00:57, 12 September 2016 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the reply. Sorry, maybe its because I'm a keen sports fan, but if the team has only nine riders you couldn't have the next teams numbers starting at ten. It basically just makes it easy to mark who's in what team, also, the rider ending with one can easily be marked as the team leader. Imagine the mess without this. BaldBoris 11:30, 12 September 2016 (UTC)
 * I have made some changes here. I hope they are a decent compromise. - <b style="color:#FFCC33">Yellow</b> <b style="color:brown">Dingo</b>&#160;<b style="color:BLUE">(talk)</b> 07:00, 12 September 2016 (UTC)
 * Good compromise there. The style of the note may need looking at though. BaldBoris 11:30, 12 September 2016 (UTC)
 * Any suggestions ? Should it be more informative? Does the wording need improvement? I'm a bit stuck for ideas at the moment. - <b style="color:#FFCC33">Yellow</b> <b style="color:brown">Dingo</b>&#160;<b style="color:BLUE">(talk)</b> 11:41, 12 September 2016 (UTC)


 * Support A very nice list. I have not find any issues with it. The sources and external links are also all good, and it has no dead links. Currently, this list meets the FL criteria. AffeL (talk) 09:59, 12 September 2016 (UTC)
 * Thanks for your support . - <b style="color:#FFCC33">Yellow</b> <b style="color:brown">Dingo</b>&#160;<b style="color:BLUE">(talk)</b> 10:02, 12 September 2016 (UTC)


 * Support on prose and structure. &mdash; Vensatry (talk) 18:59, 19 September 2016 (UTC)
 * Thanks for your support and review . - <b style="color:#FFCC33">Yellow</b> <b style="color:brown">Dingo</b>&#160;<b style="color:BLUE">(talk)</b> 05:34, 20 September 2016 (UTC)

Source review passed; promoting. -- Pres N  21:29, 21 September 2016 (UTC)


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