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The list was promoted by  Pres N  14:10, 8 July 2015 (UTC).

List of works by Dorothy L. Sayers

 * Nominator(s): SchroCat (talk) 21:17, 7 June 2015 (UTC)

Dorothy L. Sayers was an absolutely fascinating woman. She had a brain the size of a planet and a sense of humour and zest for life that was admired by all who knew her. In 1923 she introduced the character Lord Peter Wimsey, the archetype for the British gentleman detective. She then went on to write theological essays and plays, as well as literary criticism of Dante; she also translated Dante's Divine Comedy, and works from medieval French. This is a new page with some basic info removed from the main Sayers page and worked into a fuller, more complete list, now fully supported by reliable sources. – SchroCat (talk) 21:17, 7 June 2015 (UTC)

Comments from Seattle


 * Dorothy Leigh Sayers (usually stylised as Dorothy L. Sayers; 1893–1957) was an English crime writer, poet, playwright, essayist, translator and Christian humanist; She was also a student of classical and modern languages. can you just move "and student of classical and modern languages" to the end of "Christian humanist", and cut the "and" after "translator", for flow?
 * Let me mull on this one a little. The initial list is her public output and profession; the second list is lesser known and more a hobby or way of life. It would also make for an unweildy list to open. I'll ponder further on this. - SchroCat (talk) 08:21, 11 June 2015 (UTC)
 * OK. Seattle (talk) 20:47, 12 June 2015 (UTC)
 * Hi, Seattle, I've mulled over this and I think, for the reasons I've given above, that I will leave it as it stands for the moment. It's still very early days for the FLC, so should others object or comment, then I will certainly try to re-work the sentence. Cheers – SchroCat (talk) 22:15, 14 June 2015 (UTC)

Support – with a few minor comments:
 * Lead
 * As you may imagine, I don't much care for the false title in "which feature English aristocrat and amateur sleuth Lord Peter Wimsey", but to each his own.
 * Oops! Tweaked. - SchroCat (talk) 10:09, 20 June 2015 (UTC)
 * "over stressed" – one word, not even hyphenated, in the OED.
 * Done. - SchroCat (talk) 10:09, 20 June 2015 (UTC)
 * Tables
 * Not sure I see the advantage of sorting on the publisher's location.
 * They sort on the publishers name only, not the locations. - SchroCat (talk) 10:09, 20 June 2015 (UTC)
 * Not on the only table I tried, viz the Poems one, nor, now I inquire further, in the Translation table. (I don't at all think it important, you understand, but I speak sooth.)  Tim riley  talk    18:03, 20 June 2015 (UTC) Later: You don't give the publishers' locations in the Non fiction table. Perhaps you might do so, for consistency.   Tim riley  talk    18:10, 20 June 2015 (UTC)
 * Quite right, Pike, I was waiting for someone to spot that. Now tweaked. - SchroCat (talk) 00:47, 21 June 2015 (UTC)


 * Novels
 * Is it worth mentioning in the notes column that Unnatural Death and The Five Red Herrings were published in the US with different titles, namely The Dawson Pedigree and Suspicious Characters?
 * Yes, now added. - SchroCat (talk) 10:09, 20 June 2015 (UTC)

That's all from me. Happy to support this excellent piece of work for FL.  Tim riley  talk    08:22, 20 June 2015 (UTC)
 * Non fiction
 * Should the definite article be added to the first column of Greatest Drama Ever Staged?
 * Yes, my error when trying to sort the formatting for the sort. - SchroCat (talk) 10:09, 20 June 2015 (UTC)
 * Many thanks, Tim, for your thoughts and comments - all much appreciated. While I have your attention, could I draw your eyes to Seattle's comment above re the opening line. Do you have a view either way? Cheers – SchroCat (talk) 10:09, 20 June 2015 (UTC)
 * If you were to roll all the various occupations into the one list it would go on a bit. Perfectly acceptable, but it's easier on the reader's eye if you break it up, I think. The semicolon is an excellent choice - linking the lot. A full stop would be a bit emphatic. On the whole, I think I'd leave the sentence as drawn.  Tim riley  talk    12:50, 20 June 2015 (UTC)

Comments from Doc Blofeld

In the external box is "By List of works by" intentional?♦ Dr. Blofeld  09:03, 27 June 2015 (UTC)
 * Nope! A slip from the splitting off of this info. Now tweaked. - SchroCat (talk) 10:17, 27 June 2015 (UTC)

Support Looks in very good shape and seems to meet FL criteria. I suppose aesthetically I'd rather see each note column with some info and a source rather than empty ones among the others but it's probably redundant to do so in many cases and no point in adding stuff for the sake of it.♦ Dr. Blofeld  10:43, 27 June 2015 (UTC)


 * Many thanks, all done, I hope satisfactorily. Please let me know if I've missed any of the bits, or added confusions somewhere with the edits! Cheers - SchroCat (talk) 09:04, 29 June 2015 (UTC)
 * Support (sorry it took so long to remember to return!) The Rambling Man (talk) 07:56, 5 July 2015 (UTC)
 * Great news – many thanks RM, much appreciated. - SchroCat (talk) 08:09, 5 July 2015 (UTC)


 * Support – Looks perfectly fine. -- FrankBoy  CHITCHAT 10:42, 5 July 2015 (UTC)

Support – Looks solid. One thing though: Nothing else to report; an excellent list.  Cassianto Talk   08:49, 5 July 2015 (UTC) Thanks Cass, a "through" missing from the sentence, which should now make sense. Cheers - SchroCat (talk) 09:04, 5 July 2015 (UTC)
 * "During the Second World War these plays, and other works like The Wimsey Papers (1939–40) and Begin Here: A War-Time Essay (1940), Sayers "offered her countrymen a stirring argument for fighting", according to her biographer, Catherine Kenney." -- the conjunction confuses the continuation from the leading line somewhat and doesn't really flow. For example you say "During the Second World War these plays...Sayers "offered her countrymen a stirring argument for fighting", according to her biographer, Catherine Kenney."

Closing as promoted. -- Pres N  14:09, 8 July 2015 (UTC)
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