Wikipedia:Featured list candidates/Mayor of Jersey City/archive1


 * The following is an archived discussion of a featured list nomination. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the article's talk page or in Wikipedia talk:Featured list candidates. No further edits should be made to this page.

The list was promoted by The Rambling Man 16:34, 24 February 2010.

Mayor of Jersey City

 * Nominator(s):  Jim Miller  See me 20:55, 26 January 2010 (UTC)

I am nominating this for featured list because I believe I have done most of the work needed to bring it up to standards. I have reviewed the only other Featured List of mayors, and modeled this extensively on that one.  Jim Miller  See me 20:55, 26 January 2010 (UTC)

Comment - I wrote the San Francisco mayor list, so I am glad to see others use that as a model. It looks good at first glance. Though, you should also include description about the mayors. Also, this article should be named Mayors of Jersey City since this include info about the position.— Chris! c / t 21:47, 26 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Support - looks good— Chris! c / t 00:30, 16 February 2010 (UTC)


 * Comment Agree with Chris that this should be named "Mayor of Jersey City"; otherwise, readers might think there is a separate article about the mayor itself. Dabomb87 (talk) 23:49, 26 January 2010 (UTC)
 * I have no problem with the move. My question is whether to do it during the FL review, and move this page at the same time, or wait until after?  Jim Miller  See me 00:06, 27 January 2010 (UTC)
 * You can move it right now. Don't worry about messing up the FLC page. FLC regulars will take care it.— Chris! c / t 00:25, 27 January 2010 (UTC)
 * OK, there is alreaady a redirect at Mayor of Jersey City that was created when it was moved to this title back in 2006. I have tagged it with db-move to clear the way.  Jim Miller  See me 00:38, 27 January 2010 (UTC)
 * done – Juliancolton  &#124; Talk 01:24, 27 January 2010 (UTC)

Support Arsenikk (talk)  13:32, 5 February 2010 (UTC)


 * Support Very nice list and it seems any problems have been taken care of! I would suggest merging the Sources section into the References section, though with General and Specific, as in List of counties in Florida. Reywas92 Talk 03:09, 4 February 2010 (UTC)
 * Done.

{{hidden/FC|headerstyle=background:#ccf;|contentstyle=border:1px #ccf solid; padding:10px;|header=Resolved comments from Golbez (talk) 07:25, 23 February 2010 (UTC)|content=**Having worked on all of the governor FLs, it's weird to me to see the party *after* the terms, but I won't hold that against you.
 * Another thing is that for those, we use "Took office" and "Left office", since many people take office and leave office on different dates than their actual term, and it just sounds better? *shrug* I could be wrong. :)
 * As for actual issues...
 * I don't think footnote [a] is necessary; he didn't switch mid-term, and by the time of his third term the Whig party had ceased to exist, so it makes perfect sense that he'd've switched. It definitely doesn't need to be in its first two locations, and I think it's not needed at all.
 * I think it has to be referenced somehow, as listing one person with two different party affiliations would require a source. I have just removed it from the first two terms and left it on the third. The source used just lists him as a Republican, so I think the explanatory note is needed as well.
 * You aren't using the ref tags, I won't fault you for that, as they're ugly for footnotes sadly, but you need to at least have multiple callbacks to the cited material when you have multiple calls to a footnote.
 * Had to think about that one for a few minutes before figuring out you meant to have Note 1|a|a Note 1|b|b. Done.
 * Nope... there's a way to do it resuing letters. I think you want something like... oh hell, let me find my old version... I've thrown up a proof of concept here [] and reverted, since it's just one, but that's one way to do it; or you could hardcode the letters like in the old Alabama list version and then just do |a|1} and |a|2} . All that said, I suggest learning how to use nested s, they're so much easier, though slightly uglier. :) --Golbez (talk) 15:36, 7 February 2010 (UTC)
 * Note [j]... in other lists, I would simply have said "Died in office." The bit about him being the first African American mayor... would you have a mention of that had he not died in office? If not, then it seems like extraneous information for that footnote.
 * No, but I would have had to put it somewhere else. As the only mayor to die in office, there was no need to reuse the note. And a paragraph describing 39 white men, 1 woman, 2 African Americans, and one death in office seemed far worse than one extensive note.
 * Note [g]... you should indicate whether or not he succeeded in his endeavor.
 * Done.
 * I note that no one leaves office on the same day as the next one took office; this would seem to be incorrect at least in the case of the acting governors, as I presume that not everyone resigned or died precisely at midnight. And does the Mayor of Jersey City indeed take office at midnight? (I know the Mayor of New York does, but that's a pretty rare arrangement in US politics I think)
 * See next, but apparently they can take office at midnight as it happened in 1985.
 * The external link should be moved up to general references, and be replaced with a link to the actual official page of the mayor, which already exists in the infobox so either duplicate it or remove the header altogether.
 * The external link is to a page that hosts photographs of the portraits of many of the mayors. They cannot be used here due to copyright, so it is an external link per WP:EL. BUT, I am using it as the source for most of the dates and you are the second reviewer to mention this. I have formatted it as a source, but then those are the dates we have to use. Done.
 * A footnote explaining the unknown party of Alexander and McMartin would be useful, rather than just supplying it at face value. Even something so simple as a note saying "It is not known what their party was" would help; otherwise, it looks as if it could be a placeholder for further research and was forgotten. --Golbez (talk) 22:37, 6 February 2010 (UTC)
 * And done.  Jim Miller  See me 05:52, 7 February 2010 (UTC)}}
 * One last comment: Inside the block above, I asked if they took the oath at midnight, and you said, "See next, but apparently they can take office at midnight as it happened in 1985." What did you mean by 'see next', because I see no further explanation? --Golbez (talk) 07:18, 23 February 2010 (UTC)
 * I was referring to using those dates based upon the sources. I don't have sources for the older mayors that show same-day changes in office, and the sources listed under General show those dates. Sorry if I wasn't clear.  Jim Miller  See me 16:00, 24 February 2010 (UTC)
 * Okay. Support. :) --Golbez (talk) 16:31, 24 February 2010 (UTC)

The Rambling Man (talk) 10:47, 8 February 2010 (UTC)
 * Can you confirm that 9, 10 and 13 use en-dashes.
 * They do not, and I don't believe that they should. The listings do not represent ranges that would require an endash. 40A:9-131 represents Title 40A, Article 9, Section 131. An endash would indicte 9 through 131, and would be incorrect.  Jim Miller  See me 14:31, 8 February 2010 (UTC)
 * My mistake. Fine. The Rambling Man (talk) 14:47, 8 February 2010 (UTC)
 * All my stuff resolved, but the cap doesn't seem to like your signature. Cheers. The Rambling Man (talk) 07:51, 12 February 2010 (UTC)


 * Support as nominator. I want to thank the FLC reviewers for their comments which have led to an improved list, as well as prodding some additional research which has resulted in better accuracy and expansion of some of the listed articles as well. I believe that all of the comments have been addressed to meet the FLC criteria.  Jim Miller  See me 14:58, 16 February 2010 (UTC)
 * Of course, you're very welcome for the comments you've received, but your support is taken as read. Cheers!  The Rambling Man (talk) 15:34, 16 February 2010 (UTC)


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