Wikipedia:Featured list candidates/Natalia Kills discography/archive1


 * The following is an archived discussion of a featured list nomination. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the article's talk page or in Wikipedia talk:Featured list candidates. No further edits should be made to this page.

The list was promoted by User:Giants2008 10:01, 10 February 2014 (UTC).

Natalia Kills discography

 * Nominator(s): prism   △  11:29, 25 January 2014 (UTC)

I am nominating this for featured list because Natalia Kills-related articles are mostly of low quality here on Wikipedia and she doesn't have a devoted WikiProject or even a medium number of fans here. After seeing the discographies for Ashley Tisdale, Rihanna and Katy Perry, I decided I wanted to organize the discography for Kills to make it of, well, featured list quality. I have been working on it for the few past days, I've asked for assistance to an user that has successfully made an FL discography, and he has been very helpful. As this is my first nomination, I will try to address all the problems observed and helpful commentaries, though, '''please say something more than just 'Support' or 'Oppose'. Please present your reasons and give me constructive criticism, not just a mere word that will not help the outcome of this.''' Thank you in advance. prism  △  11:29, 25 January 2014 (UTC)
 * Appears to be in good shape. Just one question: Any particular reason this was nominated for FL before it reached GA? XXSNUGGUMSXX (talk) 13:50, 25 January 2014 (UTC)
 * This sort of article does not qualify for GA. Thank you for the comment, but, please read the first sentence of my text. You need to present reasons for why you think this is worthy of being an FL, and improvements to references, text, or wikitables. As you aren't familiarized with featured lists, please check the required criteria. prism   △  13:54, 25 January 2014 (UTC)
 * Specifically, it is quite organized. If anything, I would just say to keep adding content as her career goes forward. XXSNUGGUMSXX (talk) 23:42, 26 January 2014 (UTC)


 * "titled "Don't Play Nice"" - "entitled" would be the more appropriate word choice


 * "She began her musical career by releasing a standalone single, titled "Don't Play Nice", under the alias of Verbalicious, with label All Around the World,[1] which reached number eleven in the United Kingdom." - this needs to be split. Also do not link United Kingdom.


 * "that debuted at number 134 on the U.S. Billboard 200" - "that" should be replaced by "which". Also, as Kills is English and America is not her main market, the emphasis should not be put on Billboard charting only, considering the fact that the album also charted in the UK.


 * "including "Mirrors", which amongst other charts, peaked at number 10 in Germany" - I question the placement of commas in this sentence. I believe it is better off as "including "Mirrors" which, amongst other charts, peaked at number 10 in Germany"


 * Any particular reason to mention German charting? I see the song cracked the top ten in Austria too, so the sentence can end with something like "including "Mirrors", which was able to reach the top ten in Austria and Germany"


 * If the release month for Trouble is mentioned, then why not do the same for Perfectionist?


 * "Her second record, Trouble, was released in September 2013, and debuted on the U.S. Billboard 200 at number seventy" Consider making one sentence for release an one for charting

✅
 * If separated by a semi-colon "the latter of which" does not need the "of which" part
 * Stay consistent with the release date regions. Pick one region and list all the release dates for that particular region.
 * I'm very sorry but I don't really understand your commentary. Does that mean if I have France on the wikitable, I should only list release dates for that country?
 * Just a note: WP:DISCOGSTYLE says "Earliest release date". I don't think the release date regions have to be consistent. Decodet (talk) 15:22, 25 January 2014 (UTC)


 * Any better source for UK charts? --WonderBoy1998 (talk) 14:29, 25 January 2014 (UTC)
 * Sorry, though Zobbel and UKChartsPlsu are used in some GAs. I don't really appreciate them being used, but I've checked the Official Charts Company website and they have deleted her entries.


 * You must make a footnote in the table to explain what "—" denotes
 * Oops! I've added it.


 * UK chart citation does not mention supporting source for "Don't Play nice" peak


 * Considering that there are a lot of problems ahead, and the fact that this is a relatively short article, I am inclined to Oppose its promotion. However, a thorough and quick cleansing and fixing of noticeable problems might make me reconsider my stance. --WonderBoy1998 (talk) 14:29, 25 January 2014 (UTC)
 * I think I have done every thing you've asked for now, but let me know if they aren't, because sometimes Wikipedia doesn't process some edits, as you know. prism   △  14:47, 25 January 2014 (UTC)


 * I have gone through the changes, and due to the following of the suggestions listed below, I must say this article seems good now. Simple and broad. Hence I support it now. --WonderBoy1998 (talk) 18:10, 25 January 2014 (UTC)

Quick comments made a couple of changes, but please reduce the SHOUTING in some of the ref titles, and for non-English refs, please include the language. The Rambling Man (talk) 15:28, 25 January 2014 (UTC)
 * Thank you, though I left the capitalized letters like they were in the original websites. I'll work on them right away. prism   △  15:30, 25 January 2014 (UTC)

✅ ✅ for the albums, though I didn't add such information for singles, as it is unnecessary. For "Mirrors", it isn't needed, since it already states that it was "able to reach the top 10" in other two countries. If you know what I mean.
 * In the introduction, all numbers 10 or higher do not need to be spelled out. If you choose to, please pick a consistent style to follow.
 * In the introduction, I would also list the UK charts' performances before the Billboard information, since England is her primary market.
 * As mentioned by The Rambling Man, I see a couple citations that list their titles in all-caps.


 * For iTunes Store references, please include the abbreviation of the country the references link to. For example, if one of the links directs to the British iTunes, you should put "iTunes Store (GB). Apple Inc." in the publisher parameter.


 * For Ultratop references, please add Hung Medien to the publisher parameter along with it.

This list looks to be in good shape, and after the adjustments are made, I don't have an issue with supporting its promotion. Good work! WikiRedactor (talk) 15:47, 25 January 2014 (UTC)

link.
 * Linking "New Zealand" in the lead is overlinking.
 * Per WP:DISCOGSTYLE, the standard size for abbreviated country names is 90%, and  should be replaced with small.

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 * Also in the lead, U.S. → US
 * There is a missing space between ref 6 and the sentence "To promote it..."


 * The videos where Natalia appears as a featured artist ("2 Is Better", "Champagne Showers"...) are missing from the music videos section.

prism  △  10:28, 26 January 2014 (UTC)
 * Per Template:Cite web, the word "Inc" should be omitted from Apple Inc.

 Snap Snap  03:45, 26 January 2014 (UTC)

Thank you, and I've done everything you asked for. Do you support the nomination now? prism  △  11:12, 26 January 2014 (UTC)
 * It's all good now. Support.  Snap Snap  18:01, 26 January 2014 (UTC)


 * Support. Nice sourcing and good structure. &mdash; Cirt (talk) 05:18, 27 January 2014 (UTC)


 * "2 Is Better" single needs a ref, since it isn't backed up by charts
 * In "Guest appearances", why is it "Artist(s)" instead of just "Artist", as there is never a time when there are multiple artists.
 * '(s)'.
 * '(s)'.


 * Crowz RSA  04:59, 28 January 2014 (UTC)
 * Thank you. Do I have your support now? prism   △  14:31, 28 January 2014 (UTC)
 * One comment: "Champagne Showers" received triple platinum certification in Australia, however I can't see the chart? &mdash; Simon (talk) 08:45, 28 January 2014 (UTC)
 * . Do I have your support now? prism   △  14:31, 28 January 2014 (UTC)
 * Support, a well done list without any major issues &mdash; Simon (talk) 03:00, 29 January 2014 (UTC)

Comments by SchroCat
 * "English singer-songwriter Natalia Kills": As this is written in British English, there should be the definate article before the descriptor "The English singer-songwriter"


 * Formatting on FN30 needs sorting
 * What do you mean?
 * Don't worry - it was cleared up in an intervening edit. - SchroCat (talk) 23:59, 29 January 2014 (UTC)


 * FN39 needs looking at (is there a url - what is in the url field of the template isn't one)
 * link.


 * FN42 has full stops before and after the closing bracket
 * full stop.


 * Are you linking the first mention of (for example) a publisher in the links? If so, then you've doubled up on iTunes (FNs 1 and 19)
 * linking.


 * I'm not sure IMVDb is a reliable source. This suggests information can be edited by anyone, without any formal checks being made on the veracity.
 * , as there isn't any reliable source that also reports it

- SchroCat (talk) 17:02, 28 January 2014 (UTC)
 * , please respond to my comment above. prism   △  17:14, 29 January 2014 (UTC)

(Just as an aside: we don't encourage the use of graphics when replying to comments on featured nominations as it slows the page load time on the main nomination pages.) Cheers - SchroCat (talk) 23:59, 29 January 2014 (UTC)
 * do you support or oppose this nom now? prism   △  18:22, 30 January 2014 (UTC)

Neither. I'm one of the FL delegates, so I avoid COIs as much as possible by not supporting unless a list is short on comments after a long period: it means I am not ever in the position of having to close something I've supported. - SchroCat (talk) 18:57, 30 January 2014 (UTC)


 * Support: Everything looks good to me! Good job, congratulations! :) decodet. (talk) 19:56, 1 February 2014 (UTC)


 * Closing note: This candidate has been promoted, but there may be a delay in bot processing of the close.  Please see WP:FLC/ar, and leave the featured list candidates template in place on the talk page until the bot goes through.  Giants2008  ( Talk ) 00:23, 10 February 2014 (UTC)
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