Wikipedia:Featured list candidates/Order of battle at the Battle of Tory Island


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Order of battle at the Battle of Tory Island
Another order of battle similar to Order of battle at the Glorious First of June. As with that one this is a little speculative but I feel that it passes the criteria. Comments welcome. --Jackyd101 (talk) 09:07, 26 March 2008 (UTC)


 * Support nice work, my comments resolved accurately and rapidly. The Rambling Man (talk) 11:24, 28 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Support A nice orbat which meets the criteria. --Nick Dowling (talk) 10:49, 28 March 2008 (UTC)
 * In what order are the ships listed? Is it consistent for each table?  Might it be useful to have the ship name and commander columns sortable? Hmains (talk) 16:38, 28 March 2008 (UTC)

Responses:
 * How have the ships been entered into the tables? It doesn't appear to be alphabetical, by rating, by # of guns, or anything else.
 * They have been entered according to their position in the respective battlelines and consequently the order in which they joined battle. How would you recommend this is explained?
 * Can it be narrowed down to the time, or nearest hour when they engaged battle? I don't really know what to suggest as I'm not familiar with it, but the article is called Order of Battle, so maybe nothing needs to be done. -- ṃ• α• Ł• ṭ• ʰ• Ə• Щ•  @ 18:37, 28 March, 2008
 * I have created a simple key to understanding the table which I have placed with the references. This covers this issue. Hopefully this addresses the problem.
 * The key should appear before the first table, otherwise the reader is looking at the information with no idea what it relates to. -- ṃ• α• Ł• ṭ• ʰ• Ə• Щ<big style="color:#090">•   @  20:22, 31 March 2008 (UTC)
 * I tried this but it looked very untidy. I have made a note at the top linking to the bottom, is this enough?


 * Any chance of including [refs] in the notes sections of the tables?
 * Sorry, I meant to come back to this and forgot. The information in the tables comes from the same source which gives the most detaield information but is backed up in general by the other sources provided. I don't really think the article needs 30 odd references to the same place on eveyline, would it be better instead to provide a link for each table, then at least the page numbers would change?--Jackyd101 (talk) 17:08, 28 March 2008 (UTC)
 * That would work, I think. -- <small style="background:#fff;border:#ccc 1px solid;color:#000;padding:0px 3px 1px 4px;white-space:nowrap">ṃ<big style="color:#090">• α<big style="color:#090">• Ł<big style="color:#090">• ṭ<big style="color:#090">• ʰ<big style="color:#090">• Ə<big style="color:#090">• Щ<big style="color:#090">•  @ 18:37, 28 March, 2008
 * Done, let me know what you think.
 * That works for me, although the hyphens in page name should be endashes (–), per WP:MOS. -- <small style="background:#fff;border:#4682b4 1px solid;color:#000;padding:0px 3px 1px 4px;white-space:nowrap">ṃ<big style="color:#090">• α<big style="color:#090">• Ł<big style="color:#090">• ṭ<big style="color:#090">• ʰ<big style="color:#090">• Ə<big style="color:#090">• Щ<big style="color:#090">•   @  20:22, 31 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Done


 * One last thing, about the red links that point to pages of French ships captured by the British. Looking at the articles for them that do exist, they all include in the infoboxes and main text that they were captured and recommission as British. I don't think the articles you've red linked to will ever be created and so are unnecessary inclusions here. -- <small style="background:#fff;border:#4682b4 1px solid;color:#000;padding:0px 3px 1px 4px;white-space:nowrap">ṃ<big style="color:#090">• α<big style="color:#090">• Ł<big style="color:#090">• ṭ<big style="color:#090">• ʰ<big style="color:#090">• Ə<big style="color:#090">• Щ<big style="color:#090">•   @  20:22, 31 March 2008 (UTC)
 * I'm not sure this is the case actually, some ships (HMS Proserpine and HMS Resolue) for example had very uneventful careers and may never have their own articles, but it is fairly common for ships that change hands to have seperate articles on their different service in different navies (i.e. USS Phoenix (CL-46) and ARA General Belgrano) and I think ships like HMS Donegal, HMS Loire and HMS Immortalite may well have seperate articles on their French and British incarnations at some point in the future. However for the moment it maybe better to redirect them as that is where the information can currently be found.--Jackyd101 (talk) 09:51, 1 April 2008 (UTC)


 * Support Nice list, I like it when non-sports, media or music lists come through here. -- Scorpion0422 00:29, 6 April 2008 (UTC)
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