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Order of battle in the Biscay campaign of June 1795

 * Nominator(s): Jackyd101 (talk) 23:11, 19 February 2015 (UTC)

An order of battle for an obscure naval campaign in 1795 in which a French admiral lost his nerve and failed to destroy a smaller British force and was subsequently defeated by a different larger British force, the admiral of which also lost his nerve at the last moment, failing to turn a minor victory into an annihilation. Its been several years since I nominated anything here and I've forgotten all of the niggling requirements for FL I learned back then, so just let me know what I've missed and I'll fix it. Best Jackyd101 (talk) 23:11, 19 February 2015 (UTC)
 * Comment - Most of the notes and sources in the tables ends with full stops, but not all. I suggest choosing a consistent approach. Either end all notes with full stops or only those that are sentences (please see: MOS:FULLSTOP and MOS:LISTBULLET). – P. S. Burton  (talk)  18:57, 2 March 2015 (UTC)
 * Good call! Done!--Jackyd101 (talk) 19:55, 2 March 2015 (UTC)

Comments
 * "during the second year of the French Revolutionary Wars". They started in 1792 so 1795 is not the second year.
 * The war between Britain and France didn't begin until 1793, but this was still incorrect, so I've simplified.


 * "protecting an expeditionary force carrying a French Royalist army intended to invade Quiberon under the command of Commodore Sir John Borlase Warren." This is confusing. I took it to mean that Warren was in command of the invasion, but I see on checking that he commanded the convoy.
 * Clarified.


 * "Villaret attempted to effect a fighting withdrawal, but several of his captains ignored his orders." Presumably ignored his orders to fight, but this should be made clear.
 * They failed to support the rearguard - I've tried to clarify.


 * "Although an attack might have destroyed the entire French fleet" This is unclear. 3 French ships were captured even though Bridport did not attack?
 * Renewed attack - clarified.--Jackyd101 (talk) 22:24, 19 April 2015 (UTC)


 * "The Battle of Groix, as the second action is known" I was not clear at first that you were referring to the action in the previous paragraph, particularly as you have just said that Bridport did not attack. I think it would be clearer to give the name of the battle at the end of the para describing it, as with Cornwallis's Retreat.
 * Good call.


 * "Bridport remained cruising with his fleet off the Breton Coast until September, before handing over control to Rear-Admiral Henry Harvey." This is not in the source cited about Hood.
 * That is a strange error - I got it completely wrong. I've supplemented the correct source and checked the others. Apologies.--Jackyd101 (talk) 22:24, 19 April 2015 (UTC)


 * I would give the dates in the table headings - e.g. "Cornwallis's Retreat 17 June 1795"
 * I've renamed those sections after the forces they refer to rather than the battles.

Are you still wishing to continue with this nomination? Harrias talk 19:05, 19 April 2015 (UTC)
 * This seems a good list, but I am concerned that the one source I have checked is wrong. Have you checked the other sources retrieved on the same date? Dudley Miles (talk) 17:35, 3 April 2015 (UTC)
 * Apologies - I have been traveling recently and completely missed these comments. I apologise and have now addressed them .--Jackyd101 (talk) 22:08, 19 April 2015 (UTC)


 * Sadly, there wasn't much interest in this. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 06:44, 23 April 2015 (UTC)


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