Wikipedia:Featured list candidates/Peter Sellers on stage, radio, screen and record/archive2


 * The following is an archived discussion of a featured list nomination. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the article's talk page or in Wikipedia talk:Featured list candidates. No further edits should be made to this page.

The list was promoted by NapHit 16:46, 27 October 2012.

Peter Sellers on stage, radio, screen and record

 * Nominators: SchroCat ( ^  •  @ ) 09:51, 18 October 2012 (UTC) and   Cassianto Talk   10:08, 18 October 2012 (UTC)

Known for his clumsy character Inspector Clouseau and his many comic roles on radio, Peter Sellers was one of the best known comedians of his generation. This record of his professional work has recently been split away from the main Sellers page as it was out of place there and not a full reflection of his work. Aside from that, we are now nominating this for featured list status because we believe that it now satisfies the criteria. Cheers - SchroCat ( ^  •  @ ) 09:51, 18 October 2012 (UTC)


 * Support. Looks good to me. Rothorpe (talk) 14:43, 18 October 2012 (UTC)


 * Support TBrandley 19:12, 19 October 2012 (UTC)
 * Thanks TB—your input (for a second time) is much appreciated once again. Cheers - SchroCat ( ^  •  @ ) 20:17, 19 October 2012 (UTC)
 * Great news Tate. Thanks, as always, for your excellent comments and support. --   Cassianto Talk   22:44, 19 October 2012 (UTC)


 * Support on prose. Looks admirably solid. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 08:35, 21 October 2012 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the review. --  Cassianto Talk   09:50, 21 October 2012 (UTC)


 * Comment on accessibility. The tables all have well-chosen headers, proper scopes, and good captions, so should be easy for a screen reader to use. The sorting is useful functionality as well. The use of colour has good contrast so the text is easily legible, and no information is conveyed by colour alone. The images would benefit from a little more work. Alt text is indeed there for the benefit of screen readers, and is read out just before the caption, so they always need to complement each other. However, on Wikipedia there is the complication that, by default, every image has a link to the description page for that image, and screen readers will use the alt text to cue the listener to where the link is going. It would be reasonable to leave out the alt text as you suggest where the caption seems sufficient, if it were not for the link (so on decorative images we use |alt= |link= ). In the three images from Dr. Strangelove a screen reader user will hear that there is a link, but will quite probably have no idea of what the link is to. For that reason it is always a good idea to add a few words of alt text, preferably helping a visually impaired reader to understand why you used those three images. For me, the contrast in Sellers' appearance is key: I'd suggest something along the lines of "Sellers with neat hair and moustache in RAF uniform", "Sellers with wild hair and dark glasses is grinning inanely", "Sellers with bald head and thin-rimmed glasses". You may have different ideas, and that's fine as well. I think the advice not to name the subject is simply wrong: not all screen users have been blind all of their lives and many may well have a good idea what the named person looks like. The point being that you don't have to write stilted alt text - just be as natural as you can. Hope that helps, --RexxS (talk) 10:33, 21 October 2012 (UTC)
 * I have now adjusted the alt text for all six images. I adopted your descriptions for the Dr. Strangelove images and slightly elaborated on all the others.  For a task which appears so simple, it is actually quite difficult to describe a picture in such minute detail.  Crazy!.  All done :-) --   Cassianto Talk   12:03, 21 October 2012 (UTC)
 * Yes, writing good alt text is more an art than a science, but practice helps a lot! Minute detail isn't needed, but something that conveys a little of what the image represents is always appreciated by those using screen readers. I numbered the alt parameters for you in the multiple image template (otherwise the alt text doesn't work). Well done though, I'm very happy to support this FLC. --RexxS (talk) 17:35, 21 October 2012 (UTC)
 * Fantastic. Thanks for all your help.  I have learnt a lot by your comments here today! :-) --   Cassianto Talk   19:22, 21 October 2012 (UTC)
 * Thanks RexxS, your help is much appreciated——as always! - SchroCat ( ^  •  @ ) 21:16, 21 October 2012 (UTC)`


 * Support – It's comprehensive, well-sourced, can't see any reason not to award it FL status. Only one suggestion: maybe the width of the "notes" column in the filmography could be increased in relation to the other columns, since on small screens some of the entries are huge. Betty Logan (talk) 03:05, 22 October 2012 (UTC)
 * Many thanks for your support and comment. I've widened the notes colummn - it was my fault it looked narrow on some screens: I work on a wider screen and forgot to look at what it was like on smaller versions. It's now tweaked. Cheers - SchroCat ( ^  •  @ ) 05:25, 22 October 2012 (UTC)


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