Wikipedia:Featured list candidates/PewDiePie videography/archive1


 * The following is an archived discussion of a featured list nomination. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the article's talk page or in Wikipedia talk:Featured list candidates. No further edits should be made to this page.

The list was withdrawn by The Rambling Man via FACBot (talk) 00:25, 24 May 2020 (UTC).

PewDiePie videography

 * Nominator(s): Soulbust (talk) 01:32, 6 May 2020 (UTC)

I am nominating this for featured list because I believe this list satisfies all of the FL criteria, and it would be one of the first Internet or YouTube-related lists to be promoted to FL status, which I think is exciting. Thank you and best wishes, Soulbust (talk) 01:32, 6 May 2020 (UTC)

The year bars violate WP:ACCESS -- Guerillero &#124;  Parlez Moi  01:48, 6 May 2020 (UTC)
 * Speedy oppose I was thinking "Wait, how the heck is the guy the most-watched youtuber with 10ish videos a year?" and then noticed the "Selected videography" header. So how the hell were these ones "selected" but the other 4,000 videos were not? The lead doesn't mention the inclusion criteria at all so this is a massive failure of criterion 3a. Honestly this should be nominated for deletion. Just because he has the most views doesn't mean Wikipedia should catalogue his videos. Reywas92Talk 02:22, 6 May 2020 (UTC)
 * Oppose Dynamic lists shouldn't be considered for FL, especially one of PewDiePie's videography. KingSkyLord (talk &#124; contribs) 04:03, 6 May 2020 (UTC)
 * Oppose - I don't see how we can consider for FL a list which contains about 2% of the content which the article suggests. It would be like Shakespeare bibliography just listing one play and one sonnet (and no I am not comparing PewDiePie to Shakespeare :-)).  There aren't even any criteria shown for why these particular videos were selected..... -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 07:25, 6 May 2020 (UTC)


 * Cool, I accept that most of the videos not having their own article isn't an issue - disregard my comments about that. But what about the fact that PewDiePie has apparently published over 4000 videos, only 80 or so of which are listed here, with nothing in the article to indicate why these ones were chosen and the rest not?  TBH that's probably more of an issue...... -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 13:18, 6 May 2020 (UTC)
 * I agree that is an issue, and it is one that makes me highly consider withdrawing the nom if possible. With the inclusion criteria I was working off of I thought it was more or less comprehensive (although it is still a dynamic list, so maybe not). However, I would like to ask for some suggestions with this. This discussion has leaned more deletionist, and I totally disagree with that (as the lists I showed above support that one's individual works don't need to have their own articles, yet their whole discography can still be both catalogued an promoted to even Featured-list status). I am also fairly certain I could continue to make legitimate and substantial improvements to the list. However, I would like to ask for some constructive suggestions here. Like, how to address the accessibility issue in which the gray year bars violate WP:ACCESS. Is it that the gray is too dark? Also, would you suggest mentioning my inclusion criteria (i.e. that a reliable third-party source covered the video, usually through both embedding the video in their coverage + giving descriptions of the video)? Or would you suggest that I forgo that criteria and just do a legitimate and comprehensive listing of his videos. By the way, after thinking about it and reading the comments given on this discussion, I'm definitely leaning more for the latter. It makes a lot more sense to me at this point. Soulbust (talk) 16:35, 6 May 2020 (UTC)
 * I'm assuming that if the list expands to be a more total and comprehensive listing, we probably wouldn't even need the year bars. Perhaps just different sections correlating with individual years. Soulbust (talk) 16:40, 6 May 2020 (UTC)


 * Oppose perReywas92 ~ HAL  333  22:51, 10 May 2020 (UTC)
 * Oppose per Reywas92 and ChrisTheDude; and agree that it should be nominated for AFD. - Brojam (talk) 21:32, 20 May 2020 (UTC)
 * I'm surprised this is still an open nom, but I would like to just withdraw the nom if possible. I also would like to ask if you think splitting this list into PewDiePie videography (2010), PewDiePie videography (2011), etc. (similar to List of The Late Show with Stephen Colbert episodes (2015), [...], List of The Late Show with Stephen Colbert episodes (2020)) would be a good alternative to having over 4,000 videos listed on one page? I think it the size of the list would make the page rather unwieldy and harder for a reader to navigate. I'm also considering maybe having the PewDiePie videography page have Playlists listed (perhaps the thing most comparable to an album, for a YouTuber). That way it can be condensed, and still reliably sourced. This can be done whether or not the list is split by years. Soulbust (talk) 23:10, 21 May 2020 (UTC)
 * The nominator wishes to withdraw the nomination.  CAPTAIN MEDUSA   talk  11:35, 23 May 2020 (UTC)


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