Wikipedia:Featured list candidates/Pritzker Prize/archive1


 * The following is an archived discussion of a featured list nomination. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the article's talk page or in Wikipedia talk:Featured list candidates. No further edits should be made to this page.

The list was promoted by Matthewedwards 19:06, 11 July 2009.

Pritzker Prize

 * Nominator(s): The Rambling Man (talk) 19:01, 28 June 2009 (UTC)

Tripled in size, masses of lovely references and images. Comprehensive, a complete list, not a content fork. What more could one ask for? The Rambling Man (talk) 19:01, 28 June 2009 (UTC)

Support, all issues resolved. Rambo's Revenge (talk)  14:36, 6 July 2009 (UTC)

Comment Lord Richard Rogers, winner in 2007, designed Senedd, which is at FAC. Random fact. Dabomb87 (talk) 20:57, 28 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Hmm. Interesting.  Presumably the images used there are okay under FOP?!  The Rambling Man (talk) 06:41, 29 June 2009 (UTC)

Comment Wouldn't it be more appropriate under the "example work" column to use structures that were only built or designed at the time the architect was awarded the prize? Medvedenko (talk) 22:05, 28 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Well the point of the prize is specifically not to award it for a particular recent work, more to award it for a body of work over a considerable period of time. The Rambling Man (talk) 06:35, 29 June 2009 (UTC)
 * But that's the point. The architects weren't awarded for buildings he or she hadn't designed yet. The example works should show works that were part of the architects portfolio at the time of the award. Phillip Johnson's example was built 20 years after he was awarded. Richard Meier and Frank Gehry examples were designed 10 years after they received the award. These examples are not representative of the reason the architect received the award. Medvedenko (talk) 20:42, 29 June 2009 (UTC)
 * These illustrations are examples of the architect's work in general, hence the title "Example work" rather than "works for which the architect won their award". I will, however, attempt to find works that predate their award, although it may result in some going without images, and then I'd need to add a note to say why.  The Rambling Man (talk) 20:48, 29 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Okay, all images now from either the year or years preceding the award. Some missing since I can find no examples here, on Commons or Flickr.  I'd appreciate a suggestion for what to write as to why there's no image for those.  The Rambling Man (talk) 21:25, 29 June 2009 (UTC)
 * I think it is a good idea to have examples for those missing. Maybe adding a note to explain those that are from a later date briefly. That would mean extra work, so not sure if you want to do that.— Chris!  c t 23:35, 29 June 2009 (UTC)
 * This was only a suggestion to help give a better representation of what the award was awarding. I have no problem using a later piece of architecture if an early example is not visually available. Medvedenko (talk) 00:38, 30 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Also it might be a good idea to insert a hidden note telling editors not to randomly switch images. They might not aware that the works shown are near the time they received the award.— Chris!  c t 01:25, 30 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Images are now dated (with a "completion date") in the heading to avoid any ambiguity. All architects have an image.  The Rambling Man (talk) 07:07, 30 June 2009 (UTC)

Comment I echo Medvedenko's suggestion that the structures shown in example work should be the one that were built or designed near the time he/she won the award. The current choice seem a bit arbitrary. Everything else looks good, though.— Chris!  c t 02:18, 29 June 2009 (UTC)
 * See my reply to Medvedenko. The Rambling Man (talk) 06:35, 29 June 2009 (UTC)
 * I see.— Chris!  c t 20:12, 29 June 2009 (UTC)


 * I can't see any faults, so I am leaning to support. Though I think you should note Ieoh Ming Pei's birth place. He was born in China.— Chris!  c t 20:12, 29 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Birth place noted. The Rambling Man (talk) 20:48, 29 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Support - ok, I am satisfied.— Chris!  c t 00:21, 1 July 2009 (UTC)

Comment Check the toolbox to your right; a few (external) links are redirecting. Dabomb87 (talk) 16:01, 29 June 2009 (UTC)
 * The official Pritzker website has been up and down for past few days. But since when did redirecting cause a major issue?  The links still actually work for me... The Rambling Man (talk) 16:34, 29 June 2009 (UTC)

Comment - anyone fancy commenting on the actual content of the list, the prose, the details?! All comments are, as always, welcome, but there seems little in the way of comments against WP:WIAFL at the moment. Cheers. The Rambling Man (talk) 16:34, 29 June 2009 (UTC)
 * I will provide some soon. Dabomb87 (talk) 17:30, 29 June 2009 (UTC)


 * Comments from
 * General
 * Dabs, external links check out fine.
 * Lead
 * Founded in 1979 by Jay A. Pritzker and his wife Cindy, the award is run by the Pritzker family and is considered to be one of the world's premier architecture prizes, so much so that it is often referred to as the Nobel Prize of architecture. -- Is so much so that correctly stated? Reads awkward to me.
 * Rephrased. The Rambling Man (talk) 07:07, 30 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Any licensed architect can also make a personal application for the prize before 1 November every year, before the jury, ranging from five to nine members each year, "experts ... recognized professionals in their own fields of architecture, business, education, publishing, and culture", deliberate early the following year before announcing the winner in spring. -- The many commas interrupt the flow of the sentence, I think a split would be nice here or better format of the sentence.
 * Simplified. The Rambling Man (talk) 07:07, 30 June 2009 (UTC)
 * List
 * Those that have dashes for the example work its because there is no article or because they have no picture, or both?
 * Fixed. See above discussion. The Rambling Man (talk) 07:07, 30 June 2009 (UTC)
 * References
 * General: The publisher is actually The Hyatt Foundation and the work is The Pritzker Prize
 * All instances fixed. The Rambling Man (talk) 07:07, 30 June 2009 (UTC)
 * See also
 * This section should come before the refs section.
 * Moved.

-- T ru  c o   503 22:40, 29 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Thanks for your comments. The Rambling Man (talk) 07:07, 30 June 2009 (UTC)


 * Support -- Previous issues resolved/clarified; list meets WP:WIAFL.-- T ru  c o   503 22:10, 30 June 2009 (UTC)

Support, all issues resolved. Dabomb87 (talk) 17:54, 3 July 2009 (UTC)

Sources look good. Dabomb87 (talk) 17:54, 3 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Regarding the links, I mean that some of the specific links redirect to the main page of the site. For example, Nomination Process, ostensibly about the nomination process, just goes to the main page. Dabomb87 (talk) 17:26, 3 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Old link. Duplicated anyway.  Fixed. The Rambling Man (talk) 17:44, 3 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Now, refs 4, 7 and 8 are duplicates. Dabomb87 (talk) 17:54, 3 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Yah. Total fool am I.  Fixed now I hope.  The Rambling Man (talk) 18:06, 3 July 2009 (UTC)
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