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Rumford Medal

 * Nominator(s): Nitro Absynthe (talk) 05:23, 27 June 2024 (UTC)

A prestigious physics award given by the Royal Society since 1800. The article's structure (particularly the lead) is largely based on Darwin Medal, another RS Medal, which was promoted to FL in 2022. I am renominating this for FL because I feel like I've addressed all the issues that were brought up in the article's FLRC discussion. Also, I got approval for the same in a recent peer review. This is my first FL nomination. Nitro Absynthe (talk) 05:23, 27 June 2024 (UTC)


 * Just a note that I have transcluded this page to main FLC list.– Kavyansh.Singh (talk) 05:47, 27 June 2024 (UTC)

Comments

 * "Sir Benjamin Thompson, known as Count Rumford" - this makes it sound like it was a nickname, rather than an honorific title. Change to "Sir Benjamin Thompson, Count Rumford"
 * Fixed.
 * "noted for his works on thermodynamics, and for establishing the Royal Institution" - remove that comma
 * Fixed.
 * "one each in silver and gold, struck in the same die, and made of silver gilt." - one is silver and one is gold, but they are both made of silver? I don't understand this.
 * Apologies, that was a poorly worded sentence. Initially, 2 medals were awarded (silver and gold). Later, this was changed to 1 silver-gilt medal. Similar changes were made for Copley Medal as well. I have rephrased it in the article.
 * "For ten times during the early 19th century" => "Ten times during the early 19th century"
 * Fixed.
 * "since then it is awarded annually" => "since then it has been awarded annually"
 * Fixed.
 * ""For his Experiments on Heat, published in his Work, entitled, an Experimental Inquiry into the Nature and Propagation of Heat"" - is this bizarre capitalisation of random words how the source presents it?
 * Yes (from ref 13). Earlier editions of RS-published sources had inconsistent capitalization, from which some of the rationales were sourced, hence the issue.
 * "For his 'Experiments on the Polarization of Heat,' " - comma should be outside the quote marks (unless this is how the source presents it)
 * That is how it is presented in the source (ref 32).
 * "For his 'Experimental Investigations on Polarized Light,' " - same here (unless this is how the source presents it)
 * Same here (ref 40).
 * "the Society of Arts of May 12, 1854" - did the Society really use the US date format?
 * Yes. The quote is sourced from Philosophical Transactions of the Royal Society (ref 43).
 * Where there were joint winners, you could merge the cells in the rationale column
 * Could you please elaborate on this? The cells in the rationale column for joint winners are already merged, unless I am missing something here.
 * ''Apologies, it was because I had re-sorted the table, which caused the cells to un-merge -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 07:19, 28 June 2024 (UTC)
 * 2000 rationale has no end quote mark
 * Fixed.
 * "for his role in rebellion of 1831 in Parma" => "for his role in the rebellion of 1831 in Parma"
 * Fixed.
 * "Alfred Des Cloizeaux" should sort under D as "Des" is part of his surname, not a second forename
 * Fixed.
 * That's what I got -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 07:47, 27 June 2024 (UTC)
 * Thank you for the review. Please let me know if there are any issues in the edits, or if I've missed anything. Nitro Absynthe (talk) 20:06, 27 June 2024 (UTC)
 * Support -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 07:19, 28 June 2024 (UTC)


 * MPGuy2824
 * It would be good to get the English translations of the Latin inscriptions on the medal, at least for the modern version of the medal.
 * Done for the modern version. Couldn't find any source for the older version.
 * "All citizens or residents of the United Kingdom, Commonwealth of Nations, or the Republic of Ireland". Since the UK is in the Commonwealth of Nations, you can skip it from this list.
 * Fixed.
 * Infobox: It's not obvious from the reference that the Rumford medal is just lower than the Royal Medal in precedence.
 * 'Precedence' was added to maintain consistency with other RS Medal articles like Copley Medal and Royal Medal. I couldn't find any other source explicitly mentioning the order of precedence, so retained the source cited there. The awards in the table are listed in decreasing order (Royal Medal is the lowest rank of Premier Awards; subject-specific medals are of equivalent rank). I'm willing to remove this section if the source isn't good enough. Please let me know.
 * Suggestion: Expand the "No award rowspan to cover the "Notes" column too.
 * Done.
 * That's all I have. Please ping me here when you reply. -MPGuy2824 (talk) 09:27, 28 June 2024 (UTC)
 * Thank you for the review @MPGuy2824. Please let me know if any further changes are required. Nitro Absynthe (talk) 06:35, 29 June 2024 (UTC)
 * Unless you find a good source for the precedence of the awards, I suggest that you remove it.
 * "The diameter of the medal is 3 inches (7.62 cm). British painter Robert Smirke created the original design of the medal." Exchange the order of these two sentences, since the next few sentences are about the medal's design.
 * Use of the word "Currently" is frowned upon per MOS:CURRENTLY. you can replace it with something else. e.g. "As of ,". -MPGuy2824 (talk) 07:38, 29 June 2024 (UTC)
 * All done @MPGuy2824. Nitro Absynthe (talk) 09:47, 29 June 2024 (UTC)
 * Support promotion based on prose and table accessibility. If interest and time permit, please comment at my FL nom. -MPGuy2824 (talk) 10:31, 29 June 2024 (UTC)

Support

 * I extensively reviewed the list at its peer review page and have nothing to add except support this list for promotion. – Kavyansh.Singh (talk) 18:43, 10 July 2024 (UTC)