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The list was promoted by Matthewedwards 15:25, 30 June 2009.

Sergeant Major of the Marine Corps

 * Nominator(s): Kumioko (talk) 23:54, 10 June 2009 (UTC)

I am nominating this for featured list because it meets all the criteria. --Kumioko (talk) 23:54, 10 June 2009 (UTC)

I don't really understand. How is the current post different from the previous titles that were abolished? Who selects the Sergeant Major? I'm not big on military, but I don't really see where the position/rank ? fits in. You were more clear with the Commandant. Reywas92 Talk 16:29, 11 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Sorry I will clarify that, just for info though he is appointed by the CMC. So when we get a new CMC shortly thereafter we will get a new SgtMaj also. From a rank billet standpoint, there are many sergeants major but only 1 sergeant major of the USMC at any given time.--Kumioko (talk) 16:36, 11 June 2009 (UTC)
 * I added a bunch of info to the lead and added some more inline citations. Let me know if you have any more suggestions.--Kumioko (talk) 02:20, 15 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Support Much better. Reywas92 Talk  15:24, 22 June 2009 (UTC)

Comments from Balloonman
 * The transition from the second to third paragraph is very abrupt. In fact, I had to read it a few times to realize that Marine Corps Sergeant Major  wasn't the titular predecessor to Sergeant Major of the Marine Corps, but rather the first person with the title Sergeant Major.
 * I've done some re-wording, let me know what you think.  bahamut0013  words deeds   16:38, 22 June 2009 (UTC)


 * Overlink... USMC and Sergeant Major are overlinked in the lead.
 * Corrected.  bahamut0013  words deeds   16:38, 22 June 2009 (UTC)


 * There are no references for any of the Sergeant Majors or their tenures.
 * The general references points to it, do I need to add a reference to every single one?--Kumioko (talk) 22:23, 21 June 2009 (UTC)
 * I'm somewhat new to the FLC review process. My understanding is yes, if there is a single source/a few pages in a book, you could put the reference on the column header.  Of course, as a new reviewer I might be going overboard, so I'll leave this open to input from more experienced FLC reviewers.
 * Since the source is basically the same for all of them putting the ref in the column title is a really good idea. I haven't seen this done though so let me ask if that is acceptable.--Kumioko (talk) 23:17, 21 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Having reviewed a few FLs, I can say that general references are accepted for the list itself, unless the source differs for each listed item. Dabomb87 (talk) 14:53, 22 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Each one has a biography on the History Division's website, I can have used those.  bahamut0013  words deeds   16:38, 22 June 2009 (UTC)


 * What can you tell me about any of them? Were any of them particularly notable?  Did they do anything in their roles?  Were any of these individuals notable on their own prior to being appointed?
 * There are a couple that have some notibiliy as the First or current or the first African American but not enough in my opinion. I actually added a column and then removed it because I only came up with notes for a couple and they where pretty weak.--Kumioko (talk) 22:23, 21 June 2009 (UTC)
 * I would like to see something in the lead about some of them... especially, if say they helped institute significant changes in the Corps.--- Balloonman  NO! I'm Spartacus! 22:50, 21 June 2009 (UTC)
 * That's not really part of the job description. They are primarly advisers to the leaders of the Corps, but don't act as policy-makers. They provide guidance, leadership, and advice to enlisted Marines, but don't actually have a hand in the leadership of forces. Whatever influence they do have on policy and changes is usually used behind closed doors.  bahamut0013  words deeds   16:38, 22 June 2009 (UTC)


 * I'm still not 100% certain I know what they do.--- Balloonman  NO! I'm Spartacus! 06:44, 21 June 2009 (UTC)

Support, all issues resolved. Dabomb87 (talk) 03:15, 28 June 2009 (UTC)

Sources look good. Dabomb87 (talk) 15:04, 22 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Thanks, I also created an article for Archibald Sommers although its a stub at the moment. Once I can locate more info on the fellow I will fill it in.-Kumioko (talk) 15:42, 22 June 2009 (UTC)
 * I've asked for some expert help in this matter.  bahamut0013  words deeds   17:32, 23 June 2009 (UTC)


 * Web title should not be in all caps (refs 4–19) Dabomb87 (talk) 15:29, 23 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Done. --Kumioko (talk) 16:22, 23 June 2009 (UTC)
 * My bad, I just copied and pasted right out of the ref.  bahamut0013  words deeds   17:32, 23 June 2009 (UTC)
 * No big deal I fixed it, --Kumioko (talk) 17:40, 23 June 2009 (UTC)


 * Weak support I still find the lead a little, well, unclear. The Rambling Man (talk) 11:10, 27 June 2009 (UTC)
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