Wikipedia:Featured list candidates/Skunk Anansie discography/archive1


 * The following is an archived discussion of a featured list nomination. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the article's talk page or in Wikipedia talk:Featured list candidates. No further edits should be made to this page.

The list was not promoted by Scorpion0422 16:38, 24 March 2009.

Skunk Anansie discography

 * Nominator(s): Marcus Bowen (talk)

I am nominating this for featured list because, I believe the information is accurate and reflects the style of many other featured lists in Wikipedia.Marcus Bowen (talk) 21:05, 13 March 2009 (UTC)

"This is the discography of Skunk Anansie" Featured lists don't start like this anymore. See recently promoted FLs, such as Rufus Wainwright discography, for better opening sentences. Dabomb87 (talk) 21:16, 13 March 2009 (UTC)

Thanks for the heads up!, how long will it be until the nomination expires?Marcus Bowen (talk) 23:28, 13 March 2009 (UTC)
 * At least ten days. Dabomb87 (talk) 14:23, 14 March 2009 (UTC)


 * Oppose/Review by 
 * General comment
 * Fix the dabs (as found with the toolbox checker tool at the right)
 * Lead
 * This is the discography of Skunk Anansie, an English rock band whose members include Skin (Deborah Dyer), Cass (Richard Lewis), Ace (Martin Kent) and Mark Richardson.  -- No list should begin with "This is a _____" It should begin with a sentence like "The discography of (band) consists of (data as in how many of each part in the discography) The members can be mentioned later, see other discography FLs as a point of reference "done"'
 * The group formed in 1994 and disbanded in 2001, before they reformed in 2009.[1].  -- Remove the extra period after the ref "done"'
 * They are named after the West African folk tales of Anansie the spider-man[2], with "Skunk" added to "make the name nastier." -- (1)Isn't Spider-man suppose to have the S capitalized since its a proper noun in the title? (2)The comma belongs before the ref "done"'
 * The band in 2004, were named as one of the most-successful UK chart acts between 1952-2003 by Guinness Book of British Hit Singles & Albums, with a total of 141 weeks on both the singles and album charts ranking them at #491. -- (1)[opt.] Comma before in and after 2004 (2)Comma before ranking (3)Its not clear whether Guinness ranked them 491 or if that's their rank on the charts "done"'
 * Their longest running release is 1996's Stoosh album with 55 weeks and a peak of #9. -- (1)55 weeks of ....(what)? (2)On which chart was this on, please state "done"'
 * After their 2001 split, Skin has embarked upon a solo career, still using Skin as her name. -- Remove the link of Skin, its already linked beforehand and goes against WP:OVERLINK "done"'
 * After their 2001 split, Skin has embarked upon a solo career, still using Skin as her name. Her debut solo album Fleshwounds, was released in September 2003 and Fake Chemical State was released in March 2006. She has also provided vocals for a number of other acts songs. Ace released a low-key album, Still Hungry under the name Ace Sounds, which featured many collaborations including Shingai Shoniwa from Noisettes and Skye from Morcheeba. He then joined a band called Inner Mantra. In 2002 Cass recorded the album Scars with Gary Moore, and played bass and performed backing vocals. In the same year Mark Richardson has since been playing drums for Feeder after the death of their original drummer Jon Lee. -- this whole paragraph should not be in this article and is not relevant to the "band's" discography, just the members individual discography work. As a result, the lead needs to explain more about their band work not their solo work. Some of this info includes more chart rankings and certifications for the albums. "done"'
 * Studio albums
 * " — " denotes releases that did not chart or were not released in that country. -- this should be integrated into a spanned row in the table, see how it is in this FL. "done"'
 * IFPI Norway -- do certifying companies like this not have articles on WP? (Since they aren't linked in the article) "done"'. There's only an article for IFPI, not for any of its individual countries.
 * Singles
 * "—" Denotes releases that did not chart or were not elegible. -- same thing as above "done"'
 * The 1999 single needs a ref to verify its existence since it did not rank. Done
 * B-Sides
 * This is why its good to explain these types of things in the lead, like what is a "B-Side" "done"' In the lead I put a Wikilink to the article on B-sides.
 * Rename the comments column as "Notes" "done"'
 * Remove the full stops from all the 'comments/notes', they are not complete sentences "done"'
 * Note I: The full name of the track on the Paranoid and Sunburnt album is "It Takes Blood and Guts To Be This Cool But I'm Still Just A Cliché". -- Source? "done"'
 * Miscellaneous
 * Please reformat this section as a "Other appearances" section, as seen in this FL "done"'
 * Music videos
 * Has any effort gone in to locate a director for the "Selling Jesus" video? "done"'
 * References
 * Please format the refs that use the Wayback Machine correctly by adding it as in the work field"done"'
 * What makes feederweb.com reliable? "done"'
 * This is a constant problem in all discographies, the foreign charts should not have the publishers as the URL of the website but instead as the actual publisher (which is usually located on the bottom of each page or at the top) "done"'
 * Amazon.co.uk is not the publisher Amazon.com is (just link to the appropriate UK section (if it has one), if not, pipe link it "done"'--Best,  ₮ RU  C Ө   02:17, 14 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Please don't strike other people's comments without their consent. In addition, the lead still needs to be expanded and some of my comments were not addressed, like verifying the single in 1999 and adding more information in the prose to summarize the list Done.--Best,  ₮ RU  C Ө   15:54, 14 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Followup comments
 * In 1995, Skunk Anansie released their debut album Paranoid and Sunburnt on the One Little Indian record label, after having released a few singles all of which appeared on the album. -- you mean leak?
 * UK singles and albums charts need to be formatted as UK Singles and UK Albums charts, they are proper nouns. They are also needing links on their first occurrence
 * The album peaked at #8 on the UK albums chart and was certified platinum with a gold certification in the Netherlands; the band also won the Kerrang! Award for "Best British Band" in that same year. -- it was certified platinum and gold?
 * In 1996, Skunk Anansie released Stoosh, which was certified gold in several European countries, and became their second UK album to be certified platinum, peaking at #9 on the charts. -- what chart?
 * Stoosh spawned their highest-charting singles in the UK and abroad, including "Hedonism (Just Because You Feel Good)", which reached the top 20 in various European countries, including a peak charting of #2 in Switzerland. -- what does abroad refer to here? Also, remove a peak charting per the context its not needed
 * Remove the full stops from the other appearances tables notes, and rename the section from Comments to Notes
 * Remove the full stop from -- All remixes are A-sides on CD singles as opposed to being B-sides.--Best,  ₮ RU  C Ө   23:26, 18 March 2009 (UTC)

Comments from There were quite a few issues in the lead, so I just copy-edited it myself. I have a few questions though:
 * "consists of three studio albums and fourteen singles, which spawned sixty-four B-sides." Did the singles spawn the B-sides or the albums? Not clear from the text. Done
 * What do you mean by "running alongside Britpop"? Done
 * "with a total of 141 weeks on both the singles and album charts" Which charts is this phrase referring to? Done
 * "Paranoid and Sunburnt on One Little Indian" Is One Little Indian a record label? Specify, and link if possible. Done
 * "and went platinum"-->, certifying platinum Done
 * "which went gold in several European countries"-->which certified gold in several European countries Done
 * "Post Orgasmic Chill on Virgin" Specify that Virgin is a record label. Done
 * "IFPI" Spell out this abbreviation. Done
 * What sources are verifying the music videos and the B-sides? Done Dabomb87 (talk) 00:37, 15 March 2009 (UTC)

Sources
 * What makes http://www.cduniverse.com/search/xx/music/pid/1142876/a/Pavarotti+&+Friends+For+Cambodia+And+Tibet.htm a reliable source? Done, Its mentioned in the tracklisting on the page.
 * Can you use more descriptive publisher names? For example, instead of ifpi.se, you might use International Federation of the Phonographic Industry or something similar. Done Dabomb87 (talk) 00:37, 15 March 2009 (UTC)

Follow-up
 * What makes http://www.skinmusic.net/content/music/video.html reliable?
 * I didn't understand your rationale for what makes http://www.cduniverse.com/search/xx/music/pid/1142876/a/Pavarotti+&+Friends+For+Cambodia+And+Tibet.htm a reliable source. Dabomb87 (talk) 16:23, 20 March 2009 (UTC)

Oppose by
 * File:Skunk anansie-01.jpg is copyrighted, remove and see MOS:DISCOG TO BE COMPLETED
 * Chart positions → "Chart peak positions" or "Peak chart positions" Done
 * Certifications →  Done
 * Remove the columns of Australia, France, and New Zealand (from 13 to 10 per MOS:DISCOG); Done
 * Remove the b-sides, see MOS:DISCOG; Done
 * →  (without space please) Done
 * Platinum (BPI) → Platinum (UK) or UK: Platinum Done
 * Single → Song Done
 * "Charity (re-issue)" → "Charity" (re-issue) Done
 * Notes → References Done
 * Don't have any external link? Done C anniba  loki  04:15, 15 March 2009 (UTC)


 * Support, all done. C anniba  loki  16:38, 16 March 2009 (UTC)

Comments That's all Matthewedwards (talk • contribs • email) 06:59, 22 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Country names in the table headers should be bold and the refs should be on a new line.
 * "FL" and "WA" should be renamed, according to what I was told at Featured list candidates/Sigur Rós discography (see the bit in the capped comments from Drewcifer
 * Albums don't need relinking in the singles table.
 * I'm sure it's unnecessary to list every single remix version that appeared on a single: "Brazen (Weep)" (Dreadzone Remix) on "Brazen (Weep)" CD2 for example, and "Weak" (Ackee and Saltfish Mix) on "Weak" CD2. That section should be for Skunk Anansi songs on non-Skunk releases.
 * References need a cleanup:
 * Publishers should be wikilinked to where possible
 * Guinness Book of British Hit Singles and Albums has an article, so does HIT Entertainment
 * date format should be in dd mmmm yyyy, which is the format used in the body of the article, instead of ISO.
 * "Musiicline" is a typo.
 * Inconsistent attribution: "Skinmusic.net" vs "Skinny Pam". I also question reliability on this site.

Comments These are on top of the referencing problems already mentioned. --JD554 (talk) 08:20, 23 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Columns which display similar information (eg, peak chart positions, song titles) should be the same width.
 * I don't think it's true that "You'll Follow Me Down" was ineligible to chart. The chart rules say that a maxi CD can have a total running time of 25 minutes and up to four songs plus alternative versions of the featured songs.
 * Ineligible has been misspelt.
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive. Please do not modify it. No further edits should be made to this page.