Wikipedia:Featured list candidates/Snooker world rankings 1977/1978/archive1


 * The following is an archived discussion of a featured list nomination. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the article's talk page or in Wikipedia talk:Featured list candidates. No further edits should be made to this page.

The list was promoted by PresN via FACBot (talk) 00:27, 27 May 2022 (UTC).

Snooker world rankings 1977/1978

 * Nominator(s): BennyOnTheLoose (talk) 09:30, 21 April 2022 (UTC)

I am nominating this for featured list because I think it meets the same standards as the recently-promoted Snooker world rankings 1976/1977. Coverage of the 1977/1978ranking list seems to be confined to snooker-specific sources, with only brief passing mentions in the press. Any suggestions for improvements are welcome. Relevant extracts from sources can be provided on request. Thanks and regards, BennyOnTheLoose (talk) 09:30, 21 April 2022 (UTC)
 * Comment
 * The only significant thing I can see at first glance is that the article does not explain how three players with 0 total points got into the rankings - why were these players ranked and the other (presumably dozens) of professional players who had not gained any points at the last three WSCs were not......? -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 19:08, 22 April 2022 (UTC)
 * I'll see if I can find anything in sources about this. Regards, BennyOnTheLoose (talk) 09:17, 23 April 2022 (UTC)
 * I've checked other sources that cover the rankings (including Jack Karnehm's World Snooker, Ian Morrison's Hamlyn Encyclopedia of Snooker, the Snooker Scene article on the rankings for 1978/1979, snooker.org (link), and none of them list anyone beyond 25th for that year. Nor does cuetracker, which while not accepted as a reliable source, is worth consulting IMO. Kobylecky's The Complete International Directory of Snooker Players – 1927 to 2018 mentions seedings for each player at each World Championship. He has Marcus Owen as seeded 23rd and Bennett as 24th for the 1978 tournament, but Morgan "unranked"; I looked at a couple of other players from the 1977 championship not on the list of 25, and they were also "unranked" according to Kobylecky. I can't think of anywhere else that is likely to cover this. Mysterious. Any suggestions ? Thanks and regards, BennyOnTheLoose (talk) 12:12, 23 April 2022 (UTC)
 * I would suggest adding a sentence above the table saying something like "It is unclear why three players with 0 points were included in the rankings" or similar. I presume there was a reason for it, which just hasn't made it into available sources, but it just looks really odd to see someone like M.Owen listed there whereas someone like David Greaves, who also seems to have competed in two WSCs during the relevant period without achieving any ranking points, is not included....... -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 07:51, 24 April 2022 (UTC)
 * In fact, Greaves actually did better in the 1976 WSC than Owen did, which makes it even odder that the latter got a place in the 1978 rankings but the former did not....? -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 07:54, 24 April 2022 (UTC)
 * I've added the text as you suggested. I had a look through Snooker Scene magazine for the year following the list, as that would be the most likely place to report on any changes or further details, but without getting anything else relating to this. Regards, BennyOnTheLoose (talk) 20:21, 24 April 2022 (UTC)


 * Support -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 11:07, 25 April 2022 (UTC)

That is all I have MWright96 (talk) 10:28, 23 April 2022 (UTC)
 * Comments by MWright96
 * Lede: players eliminated in the quarter-finalists gained two" - this sentence can be written as players eliminated in the quarter-finals gained two, defeated quarter-finalists gained two or something similar MWright96 (talk) 10:28, 23 April 2022 (UTC)
 * Lede: "Ray Reardon retained top place in the rankings from the 1976/1977 'rankings' ." - try not to repeat the same word when they are close together MWright96 (talk) 10:28, 23 April 2022 (UTC)
 * Lede: Perhaps state in the prose how many points Reardon and Spencer had in the season's rankings list MWright96 (talk) 10:35, 23 April 2022 (UTC)
 * Lede: "The eight-highest ranked players were placed directly into the last-16 round of the 1978 World Snooker Championship, whilst all other entrants were placed in a qualifying competition" - repetition of the word "placed" MWright96 (talk) 10:28, 23 April 2022 (UTC)
 * Table: scope=col(s) are missing from the 1975, 1976, 1977 columns in the table MWright96 (talk) 10:28, 23 April 2022 (UTC)
 * Many thanks, . I've acted on all of the points you raised; let me know if there is anything esle. Regards, BennyOnTheLoose (talk) 11:31, 23 April 2022 (UTC)
 * Support Have no more issues to raise; note I've made a minor edit to the article MWright96 (talk) 16:59, 23 April 2022 (UTC)

AK
 * Disclaimer: I haven't checked references and will be claiming credit at the Wikicup.
 * Support since I don't really have anything actionable, although I wonder if there could be a source added for the last line in Rankings ("It is unclear why three players with 0 points were included in the rankings."). AryKun (talk) 12:15, 25 April 2022 (UTC)
 * - see discussion above in response to my query. No sources have been found to indicate why these players were included and others with 0 points were not.  If any sources said why they were included then that sentence wouldn't need to be there.  In essence, it's hard to produce a source to explain why something can't be sourced.  Does that make sense.....? -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 13:34, 25 April 2022 (UTC)
 * Hi - Thanks for reviewing the article. I think ChrisTheDude has summed up why that sentence isn't sourced. Let me know if there's anything else. Regards, BennyOnTheLoose (talk) 15:17, 27 April 2022 (UTC)

Source review passed; promoting. -- Pres N  22:50, 26 May 2022 (UTC)


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