Wikipedia:Featured list candidates/Supergrass discography/archive1


 * The following is an archived discussion of a featured list nomination. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the article's talk page or in Wikipedia talk:Featured list candidates. No further edits should be made to this page.

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Supergrass discography
Discography of the much loved Britpop band, Supergrass. The list covers all of their records and a list of their music videos.

Thanks, --TwentiethApril1986 (talk) 19:18, 19 May 2008 (UTC)

Still to be done/Additional comments (All new comments signed)
 * Per MOS:DISCOG, only songs made especially for soundtracks and compilations should be given, rather than every instance an album track was used. (See also WP:NOTCATALOG and WP:IINFO
 * I have now only listed songs which have appeared on film soundtracks. --TwentiethApril1986 (talk) 13:56, 21 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Still, most songs can be found on original Supergrass albums. Only "We Still Need More (Than Anyone Can Give)", "Oracle" and "Don't Be Cruel" should be listed. The three should then be referenced, and remember to update the lead section where it talks about nine contributions which itself is misleading because only 3 songs were original contribs, the others were simply licensed from the albums Matthewedwards (talk· contribs· count· email) 07:30, 23 May 2008 (UTC) ✅
 * I have referenced "We Still Need More (Than Anyone Can Give)" and "Don't Be Cruel" but couldn't find a source for "Oracle". --TwentiethApril1986 (talk) 16:49, 23 May 2008 (UTC)
 * I have added an EAN for the Mike Bassett: England Manager OST. I'm not sure if that's a good enough source. --TwentiethApril1986 (talk) 16:57, 23 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Me either! :P -- Matthewedwards (talk· contribs· count· email) 19:38, 23 May 2008 (UTC)


 * Per WP:CHART, Billboard's component charts should not be listed, and according to US Modern Rock, it is
 * Keep using it for now, WP:CHART is really meant for single song/album articles and is not relevant here. Besides, I think you've misunderstood when component charts are to be excluded. indopug (talk) 17:04, 20 May 2008 (UTC)
 * I don't see why. You've made conflicting comments here and at Featured list candidates/Foo Fighters discography/archive2 about the same thing. I also don't see why WP:CHART is irrelevant here. It deals with charts, and discogs utilises charts. Their positioning should reflect that. My personal preference would be home country, then alphabetical order of English language charts followed by foreign lang charts, but policy overrules that, too.


 * Is there any chart/sales information for the Live album and EPs?
 * The live album was a digital download for iTunes so I don't think sales for that can be found out. Same with the EPs. --TwentiethApril1986 (talk) 23:46, 26 May 2008 (UTC)


 * Since the EPs don't have Wikipedia articles of their own, they should all be referenced
 * I have put "Information taken from iTunes Store UK" at the bottom of the EPs table.

For now my oppose still stands Matthewedwards (talk· contribs· count· email) 07:30, 23 May 2008 (UTC)
 * I'd like to see references for the music video directors Matthewedwards (talk· contribs· count· email) 07:30, 23 May 2008 (UTC)
 * The expanded Chart titles in the singles table is unnecessary. Display them like the albums table Matthewedwards (talk· contribs· count· email) 07:30, 23 May 2008 (UTC)
 * In the lead, wikilink "Caught by the Fuzz", In It for the Money needs itallics, and put quotes around "Alright" Matthewedwards (talk· contribs· count· email) 07:30, 23 May 2008 (UTC)
 * There's a space between the fullstop and reference 3 which needs removing Matthewedwards (talk· contribs· count· email) 07:30, 23 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Reword the "have had" part from "This is the highest chart position the band have had with a single" Matthewedwards (talk· contribs· count· email) 07:30, 23 May 2008 (UTC)
 * "The album lead the band to numerous awards in the following years." Check this, because the period an album is legible for any awards usually expires after the 2nd year of release. Matthewedwards (talk· contribs· count· email) 07:30, 23 May 2008 (UTC)

Is cite 9 reliable? Also, Diamond Hoo Ha has charted in France. Tenacious D Fan (talk) 11:27, 20 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Which one would that be now? The cites have changed around. I have added the french album charts. Indeed Diamond Hoo Ha did chart there. --TwentiethApril1986 (talk) 17:25, 21 May 2008 (UTC)

Oppose lead is too short. See The Libertines discography indopug (talk) 09:19, 21 May 2008 (UTC)
 * The lead has now been expanded. --TwentiethApril1986 (talk) 17:27, 21 May 2008 (UTC)
 * They have sixx albums, but the lead only discusses as far as the second. Remove the catalogue.release info from the singles. Despite what the above reviewer said, including so much detail for singles is contrary to existing discography standards. indopug (talk) 21:03, 21 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Why can't standards be raised? The beauty of Wikipedia is that it is an ever-changing thing, and we're always seeking to improve. Including the same details on singles as albums is simply consistent. (Also there's quite a few older discogs that should be brought to FLRC. Matthewedwards (talk· contribs· count· email) 07:30, 23 May 2008 (UTC)
 * I'm still working on the lead... How much detail do I need to put in the singles? Release date and label? --TwentiethApril1986 (talk) 21:13, 21 May 2008 (UTC)
 * I was referring the Singles table; check the Libertines link i gave you. That pretty much follows all requirements. indopug (talk) 21:39, 21 May 2008 (UTC)

Oppose, for now. Looks pretty good, but it does need some work:


 * I don't think the catalog numbers need their own line. Just put them after the label name.
 * How should I should I put that? Label: Parlophone PCS7373? --TwentiethApril1986 (talk) 22:59, 21 May 2008 (UTC)
 * I usualy put something like "Label: Parlapahone (PCS #7373) " Drewcifer (talk) 23:12, 21 May 2008 (UTC)


 * Dates should be in the international format, not the American format. ie.  DD Month YYYY.
 * I did 15 May but the wiki link makes it come out 15 May. --TwentiethApril1986 (talk) 23:04, 21 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Well, whatever you did, the Studio albums table looks good to me now. Drewcifer (talk) 23:10, 21 May 2008 (UTC)


 * The Live albums table needs the year column on the left.
 * Ideally, similar columns between tables should be a consistent width.
 * There needs to be a legend explaining what the — means in the charts. Something like   ✅
 * The Compilation albums still needs the legend. Drewcifer (talk) 16:40, 26 May 2008 (UTC)


 * The chart column of Compilation albums is a little problematic: first, I don't think a header and a sub-header are necessary here. Just call the column "UK Albums peak position" or something like that. Also the second release needs a —. ✅
 * There's still two headers, the second one just has the citation in it. Drewcifer (talk) 16:40, 26 May 2008 (UTC)


 * "Japan only" is kind of vague and a little unhelpful. ✅
 * I didn't mean you should remove, it just reword to something like "Released in Japan only" or something like that. Drewcifer (talk) 16:40, 26 May 2008 (UTC)


 * The charts columns in the singles table should look more like the chart columns in the Studio albums table. ✅
 * The chart names need to be abbreviated, since they're awfully long. Take a look at other FL discogs to get an idea of what abbreviations are usually used for particular charts. Drewcifer (talk) 16:40, 26 May 2008 (UTC)


 * Singles don't need label and release date info.
 * Are you sure they don't need release date info? --TwentiethApril1986 (talk) 00:02, 22 May 2008 (UTC)
 * I question this also. I think espically release date info is required, and for consistency lable and catalogue number (though that could be left for MOS:DISCOG talk page. Matthewedwards (talk· contribs· count· email) 07:30, 23 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Fair enough, I'll let this one slide until MOS:DISCOG is made official. Drewcifer (talk) 16:40, 26 May 2008 (UTC)


 * Try and merge similar cells in the Album column in the Singles table. Also don't bother wikilinking them, since they're already linked above.
 * Can you explain more please --TwentiethApril1986 (talk) 23:44, 26 May 2008 (UTC)


 * Also try merging cells in the Director column in the Music videos table.
 * What do you mean? --TwentiethApril1986 (talk) 23:44, 26 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Like what you did with the years column of the singles table. Drewcifer (talk) 23:46, 26 May 2008 (UTC)

(UTC)
 * The in-line citations need a bit of work. All should give accessdate, publisher, and author if applicable. Also, consider doing  Drewcifer (talk) 22:46, 21 May 2008
 * Be sure to add a "— denotes albums that did not chart." somewhere in the article like how The Libertines discography article has. Andrzejbanas (talk) 18:03, 22 May 2008 (UTC) ✅
 * Oppose, not enough in-line citations for the list itself. GreenJoe 23:59, 27 May 2008 (UTC)
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