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The list was promoted by PresN via FACBot (talk) 18:22:01 31 May 2019 (UTC).

Territorial evolution of Australia

 * Nominator(s): Golbez (talk) 14:49, 17 April 2019 (UTC)

Following in the footsteps of FLs Territorial evolution of the United States and Territorial evolution of Canada, I offer Australia. Unlike the others, it includes the colonial period because, helpfully, no colonies joined it after it became a country so I avoid that complication. (and the colonial period was a lot more interesting!) Well-sourced, well-illustrated, and, at least at this time, appears comprehensive. --Golbez (talk) 14:49, 17 April 2019 (UTC)

Reywas92Talk 06:10, 19 April 2019 (UTC)
 * A longer lead would be nice, maybe summarize the major events and the difference between a state and territory.
 * Along with that, the timeline overall is amazing but lacks context of what were relatively minor procedural changes and bigger ones that affected people. Some discussion about changes related the most populated areas could go in the lead.
 * I recall seeing a gif somewhere, would go well at the top, especially since the images are somewhat small, with more blue sea than Australia in the maps. I know the table has all the same information but the maps are simply illegible.
 * Lede: I've tried to flesh it out a bit.
 * Context: When I originally made these articles, I wanted them to be just ... facts. No context, just say what happened and don't bother with why. But now that the initial information is in, I feel more confident going back and trying to supply context. I'll work on that today.
 * You might have seen it on Reddit, where I posted it last week? :) The maps I guess are designed to be clicked if you want to see what they say, I hadn't considered making a tiny version of the maps, without text, just showing the change in a visible form... do you think that might be worth the effort? --Golbez (talk) 16:17, 19 April 2019 (UTC)
 * I think that was it! Found it again at List of proposed states of Australia. I may let others comment if they think you should go through that work but honestly I think the tiny unreadable text in the thumbnails doesn't look great, and they didn't need to be extended through the sea for just two changes about uninhabited islands. They're terrific when bigger but not as good as thumbnails. Reywas92Talk 18:38, 19 April 2019 (UTC)
 * I'm not sure what you're referring to about 'two changes' to 'uninhabited islands' - you mean Heard + Macdonald? Removing those only shrinks the map a little bit- all of the other corners (Nauru, Cocos, South Island) are pretty close to their edges. --Golbez (talk) 18:51, 19 April 2019 (UTC)
 * And that gif was made by someone else based on an earlier version of the article. --Golbez (talk) 18:51, 19 April 2019 (UTC)
 * Haha I only read until I saw your name credited for the original file, but it looks good. I did mean Heard and MacDonald but yeah the others are out there too. I suppose as a reader I'm not as interested in the low population territories but they're certainly parts of Australia that shouldn't be left out, but most changes don't involve them. Perhaps use different maps for Australian mainland and external territories (or pre and post-independence)? I guess the maps have the same small text as in the US and Canada map and it's not that necessary to read them – maybe just increase the size to 250px like the others! I thought your test change looked good though but I don't want this to be a ridiculous amount of work. Reywas92Talk 20:06, 19 April 2019 (UTC)
 * It's not ridiculous, it's actually fun, but... I'm worried that if I put these up, the more detailed frames will be lost. Very few people will click through to see them... --Golbez (talk) 04:39, 20 April 2019 (UTC)
 * Hope you don't mind I made the images bigger and legible to match the US and Canada articles. With the longer lead now, I support. A review on my FLC below would be appreciated. Reywas92Talk 06:08, 29 May 2019 (UTC)


 * Support: comprehensive and detailed enough for my liking. &mdash;  RAVEN PVFF  &middot; talk &middot; 12:04, 1 May 2019 (UTC)


 * Support my (pedantic) issues resolved, thanks. The Rambling Man (talk) 19:56, 20 May 2019 (UTC)
 * Comments
 * "the vast, sparsely populated center of the country" - don't Australians spell "centre" the correct way same way as we do in Britain?
 * link Letters patent on first use.
 * Our article on Letters patent doesn't capitalise the P, but here you do. Not sure which is correct?
 * Think that's it from me -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 07:46, 24 May 2019 (UTC)
 * Fixed; I coulda sworn I saw somewhere that said letters patent was always capitalized, but now I can't find it. Maybe I mixed up where our article said always pluralized. *shrug* --Golbez (talk) 14:42, 24 May 2019 (UTC)
 * Support -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 15:00, 24 May 2019 (UTC)

Source review passed; promoting. -- Pres N  18:22, 31 May 2019 (UTC)


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