Wikipedia:Featured list candidates/The Fourteen Infallibles/archive1


 * The following is an archived discussion of a featured list nomination. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the article's talk page or in Wikipedia talk:Featured list candidates. No further edits should be made to this page.

The list was not promoted by User:The Rambling Man 16:20, 18 August 2008.

The Fourteen Infallibles
It's a complete, well referenced and useful list.-- Seyyed(t-c) 02:54, 5 August 2008 (UTC)


 * Comments on the basics
 * "Twelver Shi'a" do you need to link each word separately? Your Twelver link redirects to Twelver Shi`ism  anyway.✅
 * Don't think we need to link the historical to History.
 * The word is removed.


 * "are infallible which means " - "are infallible, meaning..."
 * I guess the problem has been solved.


 * Shia or Shi'a, be consistent.
 * ✅ according to this consensus Shia is preferred.


 * "must only order that which is right" don't understand this. order what?
 * I changed it to they must only order what which is right. Is it correct?
 * No it's not. But the problem I have is I don't understand what you're trying to say. The Rambling Man (talk) 06:57, 6 August 2008 (UTC)
 * they must only order what is religiously correct or their order should be in accordance with Islam. or something like this.-- Seyyed(t-c) 13:01, 6 August 2008 (UTC)✅


 * "Thus they are, the fourteen most pure ones" no need for that comma.✅
 * " doesn't mean " avoid contractions, "does not mean".✅
 * " prophets(Nabi) and the messengers(Rasul). " needs spaces before the opening parenthesis.✅
 * "encompasses the totality of all times. " hey?
 * In other words, what does this mean?
 * ✅ I removed the sentence.-- Seyyed(t-c) 13:01, 6 August 2008 (UTC)


 * "their attributes in numerous traditions." don't get this. ✅
 * What does this mean?
 * Is it OK?-- Seyyed(t-c) 13:01, 6 August 2008 (UTC)


 * Is the number in the table of any relevance?
 * Yes, I think the number is relevant.
 * What is the relevance?
 * We can remove it, if it's necessary. -- Seyyed(t-c) 13:01, 6 August 2008 (UTC)

2008 (UTC)
 * For the columns which have two values and are separated by a horizontal bar, the heading should reflect that, e.g. "Birth–Death (CE/AH)[7]" should be "Birth-death CE/Birth-death AH" with the slash being replaced by a horizontal line.✅
 * One col is called "Title (Arabic/Turkish)" and for 1 it's "Rasul Allah (the Messenger of God)" and for 2 it's "Amir al-Mu'minin (Commander of the Faithful)[9]" and "Birinci Ali[10]" - which is Arabic/Turkish here? Confusing.✅
 * The table isn't sortable so avoid overlinking (e.g. Saudi Arabia is linked every time etc).✅
 * Two Reference sections?✅
 * "pp.48 and 49 " - pp. 48–49 is fine.✅
 * Use en-dash for page range, not hyphen.✅
 * encyclopedias, books - could use capitalising here.✅
 * Five external links really necessary after all the other references?✅
 * The Rambling Man (talk) 10:21, 5 August

I see no reason for this list. The imams are surely listed elsewhere (they deserve a list). That there are two more infallibles should not, it seems to me, matter much. Elsewhere there is surely a discussion of "infallibility" with a section on the Shi'ite doctrine. It is, of course, proper to mention that, in addition to the twelve Imams, Muhammad and Fatima are considered to be infallible. I am not sure how to do this in Wikipedia but the topic "The fourteen infallibles" should be reduced to a reference into the article of infallibility specifically at the place where Shi'ite doctrine is discussed.


 * The Fourteen Infallibles is a renown title and you can find list and article in notable sites.-- Seyyed(t-c) 07:33, 18 August 2008 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive. Please do not modify it. No further edits should be made to this page.