Wikipedia:Featured list candidates/Timeline of the 2001 Atlantic hurricane season/archive1


 * The following is an archived discussion of a featured list nomination. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the article's talk page or in Wikipedia talk:Featured list candidates. No further edits should be made to this page.

The list was not promoted by User:Rambo's Revenge 12:18, 23 November 2008.

Timeline of the 2001 Atlantic hurricane season
This is my finest hour; my first article to land itself as a candidate to be featured content. If you're going to oppose because it failed its GAN, I withdrew it because the timeline is a list, and lists can't be good articles. --Dylan620 ( Home •  yadda yadda yadda  •  Ooooohh! ) 22:55, 21 November 2008 (UTC)
 * I almost forgot; if you're opposing because the timeline graph has no text, there's a bug that's preventing the text from showing; oppositions with that serving as the reasoning will be ignored. --Dylan620 ( Home •  yadda yadda yadda  •  Ooooohh! ) 01:55, 22 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Comment- The following sentence from November 3 seems a bit awkward (IMO). 4:00 p.m. EST (2100 UTC) – Hurricane Michelle's pressure drops to 933 millibars, not only making it the most intense storm of the season in terms of pressure, but in the same terms tying it with Hurricane Lenny for the most powerful November Atlantic hurricane on record. [3] Cyclonebiskit (talk) 22:59, 21 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Alright, how can I fix it? --Dylan620 ( Home •  yadda yadda yadda  •  Ooooohh! ) 23:10, 21 November 2008 (UTC)
 * 4:00 p.m. EST (2100 UTC) – Hurricane Michelle's pressure drops to 933 millibars, making it both the most intense storm of the season and tying with Hurricane Lenny as the strongest November Atlantic hurricane on record. - I may be wrong though, just my opinion, yours might be just fine the way it is. Regardless, I'm Supporting this article :) Cyclonebiskit (talk) 23:15, 21 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Thank you very much!! --Dylan620 ( Home •  yadda yadda yadda  •  Ooooohh! ) 23:19, 21 November 2008 (UTC)
 * In addition, the other paragraph should give a worded chronological summary of the list. i.e The first name storm was...., (then list other significant storms) Then say the last name one was... Then the continue it with the other prose about the storms that caused the most damage, etc.-- TRU CO 22:42, 22 November 2008 (UTC)

Comments
 * The storm slammed into Belize as a Category 4 hurricane, causing $66.2 million (2001 USD) in damage, and killing at least 31 people. - slammed is to wordy, word recommendation: made landfall
 * Expand lead, FL's have a paragraph that say a summary on the list, like the first thing in the subject of the list, significant listed content, and the last/recent content, so it should be expanded to be like this. Some of it is already like so, but it needs a few more sentences.-- TRU CO 00:43, 22 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Fixed the Iris part, but I've yet to fix the other thing. --Dylan620 ( Home •  yadda yadda yadda  •  Ooooohh! ) 01:37, 22 November 2008 (UTC)


 * Support - Looks good to me Jason Rees (talk) 01:16, 22 November 2008 (UTC)

Hmmm... Not so sure about the lead. Any suggestions about improvement? --Dylan620 ( Home •  yadda yadda yadda  •  Ooooohh! ) 01:59, 22 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Comment For the first paragraph, it's a bit different than the standard one. Below is what would normally be used for the first paragraph. As for the number of storms, that would be the first sentence of the second paragraph.

''The 2001 Atlantic hurricane season was an active Atlantic hurricane season, during which fifteen tropical cyclones formed. The season officially began on June 1, 2001 and ended on November 30, dates which conventionally limit the period of each year when tropical cyclones tend to form in the Atlantic. This timeline documents tropical cyclone formations, strengthening, weakening, landfalls, extratropical transitions, as well as dissipations during the season. The timeline also includes information which was not operationally released, meaning that information from post-storm reviews by the National Hurricane Center, such as information on a storm that was not operationally warned upon.'' Cyclonebiskit (talk) 04:55, 22 November 2008 (UTC)


 * Comments - could you change the first sentence? It's really weird, especially "weakenings". Also, I think some of the operational changes should be mentioned, such as Allison's last NHC advisory. For Barry, it was never called "Tropical Depression Three", so something needs to be fixed. Operationally, it was only known as Barry, and in the post-season, the number of three was never applied or mentioned in the TCR. This is part of a broader question of whether operational changes should be mentioned. Shouldn't peak intensities be mentioned? I have a really big issue with calling Noel "Subtropical Storm Two", since that term was only applied to Olga. ♬♩ Hurricanehink ( talk ) 06:13, 22 November 2008 (UTC)


 * Comment When will the bug be fixed? The current table is useless, and i would strongly oppose it's featuring. It cannot even be properly reviewed at the moment. I don't think it should have been submitted until the bug was fixed, personally.Yobmod (talk) 09:20, 22 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Otherwise, i think the list is too streched out and ugly in the current format. It would be shorter and more attractive tabulated, with the dates then in line with the info given.Yobmod (talk) 09:22, 22 November 2008 (UTC)

Note: There is now an ongoing centralised discussion about opposes based on bug 16085 here. Rambo's Revenge (talk)  12:23, 22 November 2008 (UTC)


 * Ugly?! I break my back over this thing, and you call my work ugly?! --Dylan620 ( Home •  yadda yadda yadda  •  Ooooohh! ) 13:09, 22 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Yes. And not ideally formatted. The same info can much more efficiently be displayed in a table.Yobmod (talk) 14:51, 22 November 2008 (UTC)
 * >:( I take that as an insult. I worked long and hard, and it could be a GA if lists were accepted at GAN. Back to the drawing board; I'm contacting my mentor about step-by-step improvements. --Dylan620 ( Home •  yadda yadda yadda  •  Ooooohh! ) 16:26, 22 November 2008 (UTC)
 * =X Hink, I missed your comment entirely! The timeline of the 2005 Atlantic hurricane season has the term "weakenings," and it's featured, so I don't think that's a problem. The same timeline doesn't have the storm's peak intensities unless they're notable for their peak intensities (like Iris and Michelle were), so I don't think that's a problem. I'll do my best to fix the other problems, though. --Dylan620 ( Home •  yadda yadda yadda  •  Ooooohh! ) 13:43, 22 November 2008 (UTC)
 * You know what? Fuck this; I'm withdrawing the nomination. --Dylan620 ( Home •  yadda yadda yadda  •  Ooooohh! ) 13:43, 22 November 2008 (UTC)


 * im sorry but that timeline image is not ugly - it would be ugly if we put the data in to a Table Jason Rees (talk) 17:16, 22 November 2008 (UTC)
 * My point exactly; if we put the data into a table (and if my vision is correct), it would be worsened to Start-Class at best; that's significantly lower than its present B rating. Thank you, Jason. BTW, I'm not fucking this anymore, but I am still withdrawing the nomination to allow improvements to be made. --Dylan620 ( Home •  yadda yadda yadda  •  Ooooohh! ) 17:30, 22 November 2008 (UTC)

Speedily closed per nominator withdrawal. Rambo's Revenge (talk)  12:15, 23 November 2008 (UTC)
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