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 * The following is an archived discussion of a featured list nomination. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the article's talk page or in Wikipedia talk:Featured list candidates. No further edits should be made to this page.

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Timeline of the 2007–08 South Pacific cyclone season

 * Nominator(s): Jason Rees (talk)

I am nominating this for featured list because... I am submitting this for FLC as i think that it meets the critera after a lot of reworking to include all of the Best track information provided by RSMC Nadi. - Please note that this is the first timeline to come to FLC from WPTC, that is outside the NHCs AoR. Jason Rees (talk) 17:28, 12 March 2009 (UTC)


 * Review by 
 * Lead
 * This timeline documents all the storm formations, strengthening, weakening, landfalls, extratropical transitions, as well as dissipation during the 2007-08 South Pacific cyclone season. -- shouldn't it be "dissipations"?
 * The South Pacfic Cyclone season officially ran between November 1, 2007, and April 30, 2008, although Tropical Depression 01F formed outside of these official parameters, on October 17 2007. -- Remove the comma between 11/1/2007 and 04/30/2008
 * The timeline also includes information which was not operationally released, meaning that information from post-storm reviews by the Joint Typhoon Warning Center, & the Fiji Meteorological Service such as information on a storm that was not operationally warned on, have been included. -- (1)the & should be spelled out (2)remove the comma before the &/and (3)comma before such as (4)Remove , have been included, the reader has already been told this
 * Tropical cyclones between 160°E and 120°W and north of 25°S are monitored by the Fiji Meteorological Service who are the Regional Specialised Meteorological Center for the South Pacific. -- Comma before who
 * There is an WP:OVERLINK (overlink) of Fiji Meteorological Service
 * Within this basin both RSMC Nadi and TCWC Wellington both use the Australian Tropical Cyclone Intensity Scale.  -- (1)Comma before both (2)The acronyms need to be assigned as (RSMC) with their spelled out names earlier [do this for all] (3)remove the both from both use its repetitive
 * January 20
 * Is there an article for "extra tropical"? If not, I find no reason to link it and have it a red link
 * RSMC Nadi reports that Cyclone Gene has intensified into a Category Two Cyclone after emerges back into the Southern Pacific. -- add it before emerges
 * February 4
 * RSMC Nadi reports that Severe Tropical Cyclone Gene weakens into a category two tropical cyclone -- Isn't Category Two Tropical Cyclone supposed to be capitalized?
 * General comment of timeline
 * I see an inconsistency with extra tropical, extra-tropical, and extratropical, be consistent
 * RSMC Nadi issues the final advisory on Tropical Depression 16F as it moves south, towards TCWC Wellington's, area of responsibility -- remove the comma after Wellington's
 * Can some of the images be resized or removed, the last image overruns its section limits-- ₮ RU  C Ө   21:29, 12 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Ok i think ive caught all of your comments but please shout if ive missed one. Thanks for the Review Jason Rees (talk) 22:22, 12 March 2009 (UTC)
 * The only thing is that the image in the February section isn't sized correctly. Its too small.-- ₮ RU  C Ө   01:22, 13 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Sorted Jason Rees (talk) 01:35, 13 March 2009 (UTC)


 * My issues have been resolved, but I want to wait for other reviews to see if I missed anything since this is the first type of "cyclone" list I've reviewed (I'm more used to "hurricane" lists), and I want to see if the timeline image and timeline itself is up to standards. I will give my support once this happens, you can notify me if I don't common with days of the next review.-- ₮ RU  C Ө   01:40, 13 March 2009 (UTC)


 * Comments and weak oppose for now Leaning Support Cyclonebiskit 03:56, 23 March 2009 (UTC)
 * You only need to link the time zones once, not each time (pardon the pun) they're used.
 * The 2007-08 Southern Hemisphere Tropical Cyclone year started on July 1, 2007 and ended on July 1, 2008. Doesn't make sense, it should be ended on June 30, 2008
 * If possible, try and get exact formation distances
 * When you're not referring to a place or name, everything should be in lowercase.
 * There are still several places where I see this as an issue.
 * When stating the category of a storm, the number should be in numeric form, not words
 * The units for wind speed should be km/h (mph)
 * 2100 UTC, (0900 FST, November 23) - RSMC Nadi issues its last summary on Tropical Depression 02F as it begins to dissipate. summary -> advisory
 * 2100 UTC, (0900 FST, November 25) - RSMC Nadi reports that Tropical Disturbance 03F has formed. where did it form?
 * 0200 UTC, (1400 FST) - RSMC Nadi upgrades Tropical Depression 04F to a Category One Tropical Cyclone naming it Daman. add a comma after cyclone
 * 1200 UTC, (0000 FST - RSMC Nadi reports that Severe Tropical Cyclone Daman has reached its peak winds of 195 km/h (120 mph) which makes it a Category Four Cyclone on the Australian Tropical Cyclone Intensity Scale. Why is the scale fully stated here and not when it's first mentioned?
 * 0600 UTC, (1800 FST) - RSMC Nadi reports that Tropical Depression 10F has formed about 485 k/m, (300 miles) to the west of Espiritu Santo, Vanuatu. k/m?
 * c0300 UTC, [[1500 FST) - Cyclone Funa makes landfall on Espiritu Santo. random [[ floating around, the little c should also be in italics (if I remember correctly)
 * 0300 UTC - The JTWC designates Tropical Cyclone Gene as Tropical Cyclone 15P (Gene). Missing a reference
 * The end of the timeline should be in June not July

Overall its a fair start, but it needs quite a bit of work to be a featured list. Most of the issues above are minor, but they're numerous which is why I'm giving it a weak oppose for now. Cyclonebiskit 01:57, 13 March 2009 (UTC)


 * Ok Cyclonebiskit ive sorted your comments out Jason Rees (talk) 02:59, 13 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Most of my comments have been addressed but following other comments, this timeline still isn't ready. My oppose stands until all other comments are resolved. Cyclonebiskit 17:22, 17 March 2009 (UTC)

Comments
 * Spell out "FST" on its first use, because the link doesn't explain what it stands for - Done Jason Rees (talk) 18:01, 13 March 2009 (UTC)
 * July 1: The 2007–08 Southern Hemisphere Tropical Cyclone Year officially starts. is this UTC or FST? Unclear right now - Done Jason Rees (talk) 18:01, 13 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Each entry needs to state the local date as well as time - DoneJason Rees (talk) 18:01, 13 March 2009 (UTC)
 * I don't see that this has been done: October 17: 2100 UTC, (0900 FST) - RSMC Nadi upgrades..., November 25: 0600 UTC, (1800 FST) - RSMC Nadi upgrades... etc etc Matthewedwards (talk • contribs • email) 08:12, 14 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Whoops i must off misread your comments - i will get right to it after i have tracked down the latest advisorys on Joni.Jason Rees (talk) 14:56, 14 March 2009 (UTC)
 * DoneJason Rees (talk) 15:41, 14 March 2009 (UTC)

That's all for now, I think. Matthewedwards (talk • contribs • email) 05:52, 13 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Is there an article or articles to link to to explain the differences between a Tropical Disturbance, Tropical Depression, Tropical cyclone - I dont think theirs any articles for Tropical Disturbance or Tropical Depressions but there is one for Tropical Cyclone Jason Rees (talk) 18:01, 13 March 2009 (UTC)
 * More wikilinking on FST at the end of the timeline needs removing


 * Thanks for the review Matthew Jason Rees (talk) 18:01, 13 March 2009 (UTC)

Neutral Oppose  from There is nothing blatantly wrong with this article, but it isn't up to the standard set by timelines that have been promoted to FL in previous months.
 * "This timeline documents all the storm formations, strengthening, weakening, landfalls, extratropical transitions, as well as dissipation's during the 2007–08 South Pacific cyclone season. " This sentence should be moved to the end of the paragraph. done Jason Rees (talk) 17:39, 14 March 2009 (UTC)
 * "2007–08 Southern Hemisphere Tropical Cyclone year" "year"-->season, why is "Tropical Cyclone" capitalized?
 * Comment - the season does not start on July 1 the year does also Tropical Cyclone is capitalized per the Tropical Cyclone Operational Plan Jason Rees (talk) 17:02, 14 March 2009 (UTC)


 * "outside of these - Done Jason Rees (talk) 17:39, 14 March 2009 (UTC)
 * "information which was not"-->information that was not - Done Jason Rees (talk) 17:39, 14 March 2009 (UTC)
 * "a total of 16 tropical disturbances, 15 tropical depressions, four tropical cyclones and three severe tropical cyclones formed." "a total of" is redundant. Comparable quantities should be spelled out the same, either all numerals (16, 15, 4 and 3) or all words (sixteen, fifteen, four and three) Done Jason Rees (talk) 17:39, 14 March 2009 (UTC)
 * "Fiji Meteorological Service who are the Regional Specialised Meteorological Center (RSMC) for the South Pacific."-->Fiji Meteorological Service, the Regional Specialised Meteorological Center (RSMC) for the South Pacific. Done Jason Rees (talk) 17:39, 14 March 2009 (UTC)
 * "P suffix"-->"P" suffix
 * "Saffir Simpson Hurricane Scale"-->Saffir-Simpson Hurricane Scale Done Jason Rees (talk) 17:39, 14 March 2009 (UTC)
 * "The JTWC storms are referred to numerically, to avoid confusion, as the JTWC sometimes recognises a storm at a different intensity compared to RSMC Nadi and TCWC Wellington." Just very confusing, I don't know what else to say.
 * Im not sure how to respond to this as i feel it is important for most timelines outside the NHCs area of responsibilty. Jason Rees (talk) 17:39, 14 March 2009 (UTC)
 * I've asked Juliancolton to look at this list, perhaps he can help. Dabomb87 (talk) 17:51, 14 March 2009 (UTC)


 * Dates should not have leading 0s. For example, "November 01"-->November 1 DoneJason Rees (talk) 17:39, 14 March 2009 (UTC)


 * The listed events should be separated by en dashes, not hyphens. See this sample edit. Done Jason Rees (talk) 17:39, 14 March 2009 (UTC)


 * "Tropical Depression ex Daman" What do you mean by "ex"? Dabomb87 (talk) 16:51, 14 March 2009 (UTC)
 * That was the designation applied by RSMC Nadi as most of the warning centers remove the name when they downgrade to a Tropical Depression Jason Reeas (talk) 16:55, 14 March 2009 (UTC)
 * I think there needs to be a hyphen after "Daman". Dabomb87 (talk) 14:04, 21 March 2009 (UTC)

Sources
 * Ref 15 needs  added to it. Dabomb87 (talk) 16:51, 14 March 2009 (UTC) Done Jason Rees (talk) 17:39, 14 March 2009 (UTC)


 * Oppose - A decent start, but it does need quite a bit of work. Examples:
 * The 2007–08 Southern Hemisphere Tropical Cyclone year started on July 1, 2007 and ended on June 30, 2008. - Why is "tropical cyclone" capitalized? Also, "year" &rarr; "season".
 * The 2007–08 Southern Hemisphere Tropical Cyclone year started on July 1, 2007 and ended on June 30, 2008. The South Pacfic Cyclone season officially ran between November 1, 2007 and April 30, 2008 - First, I honestly don't understand what this is trying to say. Also, notice the typo?
 * Ive removed the year part Jason Rees (talk) 22:14, 14 March 2009 (UTC)


 * The timeline also includes information that was not operationally released, meaning that information from post-storm reviews by the Joint Typhoon Warning Center (JTWC), and the Fiji Meteorological Service, such as information on a storm that was not operationally warned on. - "Also" is misused here.
 * DoneJason Rees (talk) 22:14, 14 March 2009 (UTC)


 * The JTWC storms are referred to numerically, to avoid confusion, as the JTWC sometimes recognises a storm at a different intensity compared to RSMC Nadi and TCWC Wellington. - I've read this four times, and I'm still confused. - Ive sorted this out now Jason Rees (talk) 21:54, 15 March 2009 (UTC)
 * The timemline itself is hard to get through. Nearly every sentence begins with "RSMC Nadi reports..."
 * As far as i am aware that is the standard outside the NHC AoR as you have more than one agency reporting in this basin Jason Rees (talk) 22:14, 14 March 2009 (UTC)


 * MoS breaches; en dashes where hyphens should be used.
 * Im Confused which should it be a hypen or an en dash when we are listing events Jason Rees (talk) 22:14, 14 March 2009 (UTC)


 * Strange image captions, like "The track path of Tropical Depression 01F" - track path? Jason Rees (talk) 22:38, 14 March 2009 (UTC) Done

–Juliancolton Tropical Cyclone  21:39, 14 March 2009 (UTC)


 * Comment - Make sure your dates are all formatted properly. I see mostly (year)-(month)-(day), which is good, but I also see an occasional mixture of other forms. Can you check all of your citations please? NuclearWarfare  ( Talk ) 00:39, 23 March 2009 (UTC)
 * DoneJason Rees (talk) 03:18, 23 March 2009 (UTC)


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