Wikipedia:Featured list candidates/Timeline of town creation in the Hudson Valley/archive1


 * The following is an archived discussion of a featured list nomination. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the article's talk page or in Wikipedia talk:Featured list candidates. No further edits should be made to this page.

The list was not promoted by Dabomb87 23:37, 16 November 2010.

Timeline of town creation in the Hudson Valley

 * Nominator(s): Camelbinky (talk) 23:19, 2 October 2010 (UTC)

I am nominating this for featured list because I believe it is complete, accurate, and is useful not just for casual readers but also as a resource for improving Hudson Valley town, city, and county articles. Camelbinky (talk) 23:19, 2 October 2010 (UTC)

Oppose
 * One glance comments. The lede is too short, and colour shouldn't be used as the sole way of presenting information per WP:ACCESS. Courcelles 23:28, 2 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Added letter coding to supplement the color coding. Also expanded the lead.Camelbinky (talk) 07:01, 3 October 2010 (UTC)


 * More Comments
 * "Other changes that occurred include the transfer of Dutchess County's northern section, the Livingston Manor, to Columbia County; and Greene County was formed in 1800 by the combination of the southernmost towns of Albany County with the northernmost towns of Ulster, the history of the towns of Greene and Columbia counties can be found at the Timeline of town creation in New York's Capital District." Whoa... take a breath.  That's an incredibly long sentence.  It actually becomes unclear so much is thrown into some of these sentences
 * I'm really not sure about this format. Perhaps I'm just the type that hates charts and glosses over them, but this "list" is a maze at times, especially in Orange and Putnam. I wonder if a table with explanatory prose in a note column wouldn't be simpler.  Or even a map?  I mean, for pete's sake, I know this area and am getting lost.
 * The general ref- location is Syracuse. But, I'm wondering if something 150 years old is really the best source available?
 * Ref 5. What is this and why is it reliable?
 * Ref 4, same thing, why is it a RS?
 * Ref 7, more bibliographic details please. Also, have you examined this source in detail, or just the 50-word excerpts available online?
 * Ref 11 needs fuller bibliographic detail. (publisher, location, ISBN if available)
 * There's more sourcing problems. Personally, it looks like only online sources have been examined. For this subject, that leaves no confidence the best sources have been examined.

Courcelles 09:53, 8 November 2010 (UTC)


 * Support. Ruslik_ Zero 18:16, 5 October 2010 (UTC)


 * Quick comment: I am impressed by the diagrams, and find this to be a very informative list. One suggestion might be to add one or two relevant images to the lead for additional visual value. (I do not feel qualified to offer support or oppose the promotion of this list, as I am particularly unfamiliar with timelines on Wikipedia, but I think you did a great job--even if it does not reach FL status!) -- Another Believer ( Talk ) 03:18, 5 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Added photos and maps to a few of the county sections and a photo to the lead. To be honest you shouldnt worry about being unfamiliar with this type of article since to my best knowledge it is unique and a first for Wikipedia (except for the other ones I have created for other NY regions such as Timeline of town creation in Downstate New York). I am quite relieved that it has been received so well, I was afraid initial reactions might be against something so new.Camelbinky (talk) 00:22, 6 October 2010 (UTC)


 * Quick comment – Just one small thing to point out: I see "southernmost" and "northern most" in the lead. The two should probably have a consistent style, one way or the other.  Giants2008  ( 27 and counting ) 21:13, 16 October 2010 (UTC)
 * DoneCamelbinky (talk) 15:33, 17 October 2010 (UTC)


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