Wikipedia:Featured list candidates/Torrens Trophy/archive1


 * The following is an archived discussion of a featured list nomination. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the article's talk page or in Wikipedia talk:Featured list candidates. No further edits should be made to this page.

The list was promoted by Giants2008 via FACBot (talk) 00:26, 13 April 2020 (UTC).

Torrens Trophy

 * Nominator(s): MWright96 (talk) 21:36, 14 March 2020 (UTC)

This is the Torrens Trophy, an award given to those who improve the status of motorcycling in the United Kingdom. I believe this list meets the criteria to become a featured list and am welcome to all comments regarding this nomination. MWright96 (talk) 21:36, 14 March 2020 (UTC)


 * Comments from CAPTAIN MEDUSA
 * In the table, change "No award" to Not awarded.
 * Add a short description.

After you have made these changes, I will be more than happy to support this for promotion. CAPTAIN MEDUSA  talk  12:43, 15 March 2020 (UTC)
 * Thank you for your comments. The changes suggested above have been done. MWright96 (talk) 12:53, 15 March 2020 (UTC)
 * I support this for promotion. Also, you're welcomed to review my FLC sumbsion Featured list candidates/Jennifer Aniston filmography/archive1. Thanks.  CAPTAIN MEDUSA   talk  13:18, 15 March 2020 (UTC)


 * Support -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 13:18, 16 March 2020 (UTC)

Comments from Dank

 * Standard disclaimers: I don't know what I'm doing, but I'll probably claim Wikicup points anyway.
 * It may be that I'm not up to speed on table formatting ... but

seems prefereable to


 * CAPTAIN MEDUSA, ChrisTheDude ... do you have any preference between these two formats?


 * FLC criteria:
 * 1. Prose is good to go.
 * 2. The lead meets WP:LEAD and defines the inclusion criteria.
 * 3a. The list has comprehensive items and annotations.
 * 3b. The article is well-sourced to reliable sources, and the UPSD tool isn't indicating any problems (but this isn't a source review). All relevant retrieval dates are present.
 * 3c. The list meets requirements as a stand-alone list, it's not a content fork, it doesn't largely duplicate another article (that I can find), and it wouldn't fit easily inside another article.
 * 4. It is navigable.
 * 5. It meets style requirements. You make excellent use of images (but this isn't an image review).
 * 6. It is stable.
 * Support, since this is close enough to the finish line. Well done. - Dank (push to talk) 20:48, 16 March 2020 (UTC)
 * Thinking about it, it would be more aesthetically pleasing with the "no award" rows merged.......... -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 08:25, 17 March 2020 (UTC)
 * MWright96, if that works for you, I can make the changes. (It's a little tricky, it needs something like width="3%" to keep the first column from expanding.) - Dank (push to talk) 12:54, 17 March 2020 (UTC)
 * I am happy for the change to go ahead. MWright96 (talk) 13:27, 17 March 2020 (UTC)
 * Thanks, done. - Dank (push to talk) 15:50, 17 March 2020 (UTC)
 * I'd appreciate any thoughts or concerns you might have over at WP:Featured list candidates/Stearn's botanical names (U–Z)/archive1. - Dank (push to talk) 04:24, 10 April 2020 (UTC)


 * Source review – The reliability and formatting of the sources look okay, and the link-checker tool shows no problems. This source review is a pass. Giants2008  ( Talk ) 21:28, 7 April 2020 (UTC)

Overall, nice work; not much to catch on this one at all. (I might claim points for this review in the WikiCup, though it is a bit on the short side!) Harrias  talk 10:38, 8 April 2020 (UTC)
 * Comments from Harrias
 * "..which is composed by a.." Should be "composed of".
 * Do we have any information on who Frederick Lovegrove was, or why he won it? It feels like quite a significant hole in the article at the moment to not have anything about him?
 * In the table, can the "Year" column be made wider, to allow "1982–1988" (etc.) to appear on one line. The "citation" column can take up the slack.
 * Harrias, see my comment above, it was my suggestion and I coded it into the table. I have no preference. - Dank (push to talk) 11:45, 8 April 2020 (UTC)
 * The images are all free, with appropriate licenses, and alt text.
 * The "External link" just goes to the general RAC website; given that the Torrens Trophy page is already used as a reference, I'd consider removing this completely.
 * Done all except for adding further information about Frederick Lovegrove which is practically non extistant bar the fact he was a Lieutenant-Colonel and was awarded the OBE. MWright96 (talk) 11:11, 8 April 2020 (UTC)
 * In looking around for something about it, I did find a couple of article talking about the trophy itself, an "eight-pint silver tankard", which might be worth including. Here if you have a British Newspaper Archive subscription.
 * It seems like Lovegrove was the organiser of the RAC/ACU National Training Scheme, so I guess it was for that. But I can't verify that, so no matter. Harrias  talk 11:42, 8 April 2020 (UTC)
 * I don't have a BNA subscription so I cannot see the source. MWright96 (talk) 11:48, 8 April 2020 (UTC)
 * I've found a free alternative here; the image on the fourth row, second column. Harrias  talk 12:05, 8 April 2020 (UTC)
 * Added the information in MWright96 (talk) 12:37, 8 April 2020 (UTC)
 * Support: all looks good to me, nice work. If you get a chance, I'd appreciate your thoughts on Featured list candidates/List of Formula One Grand Prix wins by Alain Prost/archive1. Harrias  talk 12:39, 8 April 2020 (UTC)

Giants2008 ( Talk ) 21:13, 12 April 2020 (UTC)
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