Wikipedia:Featured list candidates/United States Secretary of Transportation/archive1


 * The following is an archived discussion of a featured list nomination. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the article's talk page or in Wikipedia talk:Featured list candidates. No further edits should be made to this page.

The list was promoted by The Rambling Man 14:00, 3 February 2010.

United States Secretary of Transportation

 * Nominator(s): Reywas92 Talk 23:38, 7 January 2010 (UTC)

I'm sorry there aren't a ton a references, but the two with the list and department information were pretty good. I've tried to include all relevant information, but I'm happy to research something further without going into too much detail. Reywas92 Talk 23:38, 7 January 2010 (UTC)
 * And, to clarify, I'm in the Wikicup. Reywas92 Talk 03:57, 31 January 2010 (UTC)

Support Comment - Should acting secretar(ies) be included? I am asking because based on my research on this list, Maria Cino was the acting Secretary of Transportation briefly and she isn't on the list.— Chris! c / t 00:10, 8 January 2010 (UTC)
 * I prefer not to because most did so with limited duties for only a few days or weeks as an interim until the newly-appointed Secretary took office, when they returned to the usual Deputy. They are rightly not included in most other lists, and they disrupt the table. Reywas92 Talk 00:33, 8 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Ok, I suppose you are right.— Chris! c / t 22:43, 8 January 2010 (UTC)

Support Comments.
 * 1) Should not the article be renamed to List if United States Secretaries of Transportation?
 * No. As Chris said, this is also still the top article for the position, and a split is a 3b violation. The other secretary lists are also this way.


 * 1) The salary of the Secretary of Transportation is $199,700. This sentence is out of places and should be moved to the end of the second paragraph.
 * Done. Thanks! Reywas92 Talk 22:55, 8 January 2010 (UTC)

Ruslik_ Zero 20:11, 8 January 2010 (UTC)
 * I don't think it should be renamed since this article is about the position as well. And per criteria 3b, both United States Secretaries of Transportation and List of United States Secretaries of Transportation should not be split and should be combined as one article.— Chris! c / t 22:43, 8 January 2010 (UTC)
 * I am satisfied with the answers, so I am supporting. Ruslik_ Zero 19:25, 10 January 2010 (UTC)

Support excellent list which deserves a star. Arsenikk (talk)  11:16, 3 February 2010 (UTC)


 * Comment: The party thing seems off to me. It's a non-partisan office, and candidates who are registered with another party are occasionally chosen. But the main thing is, it's unreferenced. The only general ref doesn't mention party affiliation at all. --Golbez (talk) 19:59, 16 January 2010 (UTC)
 * I don't really care. While it is still partisan, it's not really political. The point is to show those cross-overs. I doubt I could find a reference other than individual irrelevant mentions. Any other opinions? Reywas92 Talk 22:04, 20 January 2010 (UTC)


 * Comment - Ref #6 contains 2 References, I'm just wondering as to why these aren't 2 separate references. Afro  ( Not a Terrible Joke ) - Afkatk 09:41, 20 January 2010 (UTC)
 * The two work together. One indicates that the Secretary is Class 1 of the executive schedule, and the other gives its salary. Reywas92 Talk</b> 22:04, 20 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Well I was just wondering, since it looked kind of odd, it was no big problem anyway. Afro  ( Not a Terrible Joke ) - Afkatk 09:37, 21 January 2010 (UTC)


 * Support - I support it, though the date on Ref #5 should be formatted more like the others. Afro  ( Its More Than a Feeling ) - Afkatk 23:26, 30 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Fixed. Thanks! Reywas92 <b style="color:#45E03A;">Talk</b> 03:57, 31 January 2010 (UTC)

Comments from WFCforLife Otherwise it looks pretty good. Regards, WFCforLife (talk) 02:37, 31 January 2010 (UTC) Disclosure: Not certain about Reywas because I can't load the page, but I'm in the wikicup. WFCforLife (talk) 02:37, 31 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Was Mineta 69 at the start or the end of his tenure?
 * Start. I think it's inferred from the first part of the sentence.
 * That's the way I read it. I just thought it would make more sense to give his age at the end. This is a bit of a Brit-orientated example, but in a list of the oldest footballers, we would say that Stanley Matthews played professionally until he was 50, not that he joined Stoke at 46. WFCforLife (talk) 04:43, 31 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Changed to retiring age. Reywas92 <b style="color:#45E03A;">Talk</b> 16:48, 31 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Not being from the US, I don't understand the relevance of "State of Residence". I understand what it means, but not the significance. What if one of them moved house?
 * No significance, really, but often it's nice to have where they're from listed. Politicians are normally associated with a certain state, which doesn't change very often; they're referenced in the general ref.
 * Agree with Afkatk on the date
 * Fixed.
 * Thanks! (And I am.) Reywas92 <b style="color:#45E03A;">Talk</b> 03:57, 31 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Support. I have no real preference between the solutions I have given above. WFCforLife (talk) 04:49, 2 February 2010 (UTC)


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