Wikipedia:Featured list candidates/Veronica Mars (season 1)


 * The following is an archived discussion of a featured list nomination. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the article's talk page or in Wikipedia talk:Featured list candidates. No further edits should be made to this page.

The list was promoted by Scorpion0422 23:09, 28 March 2009.

Veronica Mars (season 1)

 * Nominator(s):  Corn.u. co.pia  •  Disc.u s.sion  

I am nominating this for featured list because I feel it meets the FL criteria.  Corn.u. co.pia  •  Disc.u s.sion   07:13, 5 March 2009 (UTC)

Review by 
 * The first season garnered an average of 2.5 million viewers per all 22 episodes in the U.S.. -- Remove the final period, its not needed when using acronyms as such
 * Done.  Corn.u. co.pia  •  Disc.u s.sion   04:29, 8 March 2009 (UTC)
 * The pilot was watched by 2.49 million viewers,[5] while the final was watched 2.99 million viewers. -- add "by" before 2.99
 * Done.  Corn.u. co.pia  •  Disc.u s.sion   04:29, 8 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Critical reception
 * I'm guessing there was no negative?-- ₮ RU  C Ө   04:23, 8 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Hardly, but I'll try to find one or two.  Corn.u. co.pia  •  Disc.u s.sion   04:29, 8 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Okay, notify me when this is addressed.-- ₮ RU  C Ө   23:01, 8 March 2009 (UTC)
 * I finally managed to find some negative aspects, as well as a criticism.  Corn.u. co.pia  •  Disc.u s.sion   04:30, 15 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Great work. It looks fine.--Best,  ₮ RU  C Ө   02:06, 17 March 2009 (UTC)


 * Support -- Previous issues have been resolved to meet WP:WIAFL standards. Good work.--Best,  ₮ RU  C Ө   02:06, 17 March 2009 (UTC)


 * Comment by : Few edits made, including an image rename (manual reupload; I'm unsure if even administrators can move files). Please check if the new picture meets the Fair Use criteria; I'm not sure if I did it correctly. NuclearWarfare  ( Talk ) 03:09, 9 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Thanks, looks great.  Corn.u. co.pia  •  Disc.u s.sion   03:29, 9 March 2009 (UTC)


 * Hi, I'm not doing a full review here, but shouldn't this be nominated for GA, since the third season article is.-- Music 26/  11  19:28, 10 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Well, the season three page is more like a season article, rather than a season list, if you get what I mean. I am going to remove some information from that page and nominate it for FL later.  Corn.u. co.pia  •  Disc.u s.sion   05:26, 11 March 2009 (UTC)

Support, all issues resolved. Dabomb87 (talk) 20:06, 14 March 2009 (UTC)

Sources look good. Dabomb87 (talk) 21:46, 13 March 2009 (UTC)


 * Comments
 * Marsinvestigations is a fan site. The first page says "marsinvestigations.net is an unofficial, nonprofit, unauthorized, unprofessional site done by a bunch of fans."
 * That's true, and I have a hard time arguing my case in respect to these sites, but many users have told me that since the info is coming "straight from the horse's mouth", or whatever, it is slightly more accepted. It's not unusual for fansites to host interviews with their targeted series, and Daggs is saying the info himself, not some fan. Is the issue here that we fear the site may have made this stuff up?  Corn.u. co.pia  •  Disc.u s.sion   23:51, 21 March 2009 (UTC)
 * I think the no fansite policy is more of a general thing, for every reliable fansite there are a dozen non-reliable ones (I agree with you though, I edit a lot of Simpsons pages and we can't use The Simpsons Archive, which really hurts sometimes). -- Scorpion 0422  15:00, 23 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Okay. Well, I have not removed the information yet, but I guess I will have to when the time comes.  Corn.u. co.pia  •  Disc.u s.sion   06:39, 24 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Is Yahoo useable? I've seen some FACs like this one where users said it wasn't allowed.
 * Well, it's not the most reliable ref, but it is the most reliable ref I could find. It seems no other sources bothered to explain why she left. I could just remove the budget issues section, but I think an explanation of why she left is needed.  Corn.u. co.pia  •  Disc.u s.sion   23:51, 21 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Did you try searching NewsBank (if you don't have access, I can do it for you)? -- Scorpion 0422  15:00, 23 March 2009 (UTC)
 * That would be very appreciated. Thank you. :)  Corn.u. co.pia  •  Disc.u s.sion   06:39, 24 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Are we really allowed to link to pirated DVD commentaries like this? After all, we usually aren't allowed to link to YouTube because of copyright concerns (I'm not saying the commentary itself can't be used, I just don't think you should link to it).
 * I have no idea. The thing is, SlaveRats is Rob Thomas' official site, so if he put it up, I'm guessing it's fine?  Corn.u. co.pia  •  Disc.u s.sion   23:51, 21 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Overlinking in the refs section. -- Scorpion 0422  21:19, 21 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Do you mean the repeated linking of "ABC Medianet"? I'm slightly confused when it comes to these things because I see it all the time. Should refs be linked only in the first instance like prose, or is there a different style?  Corn.u. co.pia  •  Disc.u s.sion   23:51, 21 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Yes, that is what I mean. I don't know if there's a policy against it, but I think it's just a necessity thing. Does ABC need to be linked a dozen times in a row like that? -- Scorpion 0422  15:00, 23 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Done.  Corn.u. co.pia  •  Disc.u s.sion   06:39, 24 March 2009 (UTC)
 * This is what I get for rushing through an FLC review... Dabomb87 (talk) 21:26, 21 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Well, at least you were kind enough to actually do a review. :)  Corn.u. co.pia  •  Disc.u s.sion   00:05, 22 March 2009 (UTC)


 * Comment I took a look in Newsbank and I couldn't find anything. The article itself says its a rumour, and I think it needs a stonger source than Yahoo. -- Scorpion 0422  00:48, 25 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Okay, well it has been removed.  Corn.u. co.pia  •  Disc.u s.sion   04:54, 25 March 2009 (UTC)
 * The Marsinvestigations ref has also been removed. :(  Corn.u. co.pia  •  Disc.u s.sion   04:59, 25 March 2009 (UTC)

Comments Apart from that it looks good.  Rambo's   Revenge   (How am I doing?)   12:01, 26 March 2009 (UTC)
 * I always think that to prevent Globalize/North America you should make a mention, if possible, of other international channels/dates/reception . e.g. Living TV in the UK where it averaged 50k viewers, CTV Television Network in Canada, Network Ten in Australia etc.
 * Okay; the info has been added from the main page.  Corn.u. co.pia  •  Disc.u s.sion   12:49, 26 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Might be worth adding a mention in the Critical reception section of the awards received as a result of season 1.
 * It is worth it, but I have no idea which awards correlate to this season. Just because the award was awarded in the same year, does that mean it was for this very season? Because of my confusion, I think I'll just leave the award info on the main page.  Corn.u. co.pia  •  Disc.u s.sion   12:49, 26 March 2009 (UTC)
 * I agree some are difficult, e.g. the AFI award whose criteria is First-run programs airing for American audiences on network or cable television between January 1 and December 31 and would apply to S1 and S2. However some of the others are much more obvious. The 2004 Saturn is clearly for S1 as no other season had aired then. The 2005 TCA awards are for S1 as one of the noms is "Outstanding New Program of the Year". Similarly for Teen Choice.  Rambo's   Revenge   (How am I doing?)   14:14, 26 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Well, I added them all. Hopefully they are correct.  Corn.u. co.pia  •  Disc.u s.sion   05:07, 27 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Consistency in the date format in the references, change the "accessdate" from ISO to the format used in the "date" parameter (i.e. Month DD, YYYY)
 * Done.  Corn.u. co.pia  •  Disc.u s.sion   12:49, 26 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the review. :)  Corn.u. co.pia  •  Disc.u s.sion   12:49, 26 March 2009 (UTC)

Other stuff I forgot. I know the episodes themselves provide the director/writers/prod code info, and I will assume they are correct. However a general reference would be nice if it can be found. The episodes don't provide the airdate info and (usually) don't provide the name either. So I think you need an general ref for these (e.g. something like this) Also I have checked and S1 (unlike S3) is not available as video on demand from Amazon Unbox, iTunes and the like. However I think that http://www.thewb.com/shows/veronica-mars/ might show some episodes as video on demand. Might be worth mentioning if it is true.  Rambo's   Revenge   (How am I doing?)   14:44, 26 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Okay, I added the general refs. I can't access TheWB website because I don't live in the US, but I don't think it's that necessary anyways. Thanks for the idea though. :)  Corn.u. co.pia  •  Disc.u s.sion   05:07, 27 March 2009 (UTC)


 * Comment Looks pretty good, but one last comment. Some of these season pages have DVD release information (and the ones that don't probably should). It might not hurt to add one for this page. If you decide to, here are some examples that you can base it on: The Simpsons (season 5), Degrassi: The Next Generation (season 2), Lost (season 3), The O.C. (season 1). -- Scorpion 0422  18:46, 26 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Actually Scorpion it does have some DVD release info. already. It is just located here in prose form. Best,  Rambo's   Revenge   (How am I doing?)   18:52, 26 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Yeah, I did notice that. I meant a section with a table, etc. -- Scorpion 0422  23:21, 26 March 2009 (UTC)
 * I think the prose has all of that info anyways. Is there anything in particular from the table that you would like me to add to the prose?  Corn.u. co.pia  •  Disc.u s.sion   05:07, 27 March 2009 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive. Please do not modify it. No further edits should be made to this page.