Wikipedia:Featured list candidates/WCW Light Heavyweight Championship/archive3


 * The following is an archived discussion of a featured list nomination. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the article's talk page or in Wikipedia talk:Featured list candidates. No further edits should be made to this page.

The list was promoted by PresN via FACBot (talk) 00:27, 31 July 2020 (UTC).

WCW Light Heavyweight Championship

 * Nominator(s): G RAPPLE   X  16:05, 30 January 2020 (UTC)

Hopefully the third time's the charm for this one, which was archived after drawing no responses on its previous two candidacies. It's another short-lived pro-wrestling championship from the early 1990s. I'm aware that there's a degree of overlap between this and List of WWE Cruiserweight Champions, but this is a more thorough look at a separate entity which is only in hindsight considered one and the same with the latter so I don't believe that's going to be an issue. The article was given a copy-editing tag-team by and, and follows the same layout as the FL WCW International World Heavyweight Championship. Thanks for looking at this to anyone who takes the time. G RAPPLE   X  16:05, 30 January 2020 (UTC)
 * Comments
 * As the opening paragraph is only one sentence, I would merge it with the next one
 * "WWE, who purchased WCW's assets in 2001" => "WWE, which purchased WCW's assets in 2001"
 * "Morton and Pillmen contested" - typo
 * "Pillman successfully defended the championship against Tom Zenk at the May 17 WrestleWar event in Jacksonville, Florida; before being defeated" - that semi-colon should be a comma
 * "would depict any maneuver performed from the top rope of the ring as illegal and resulting in disqualification; this effectively ended the appeal of the light heavyweight style" - I don't think it's quite right to say it ended the appeal of the style, as the style would still have been appealing but essentially wasn't allowed to be used. I would say "effectively ended the viability of the light heavyweight style"
 * Think that's it from me -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 09:12, 12 February 2020 (UTC)


 * Thanks for taking a look. I've addressed anything you have raised here. Gʀᴀᴘᴘʟᴇ ˣ 09:43, 12 February 2020 (UTC)


 * Support -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 11:17, 12 February 2020 (UTC)


 * Support all my concerns have been addressed. Harrias  talk 10:05, 29 June 2020 (UTC) (Forgot to mention, but I will claim WikiCup points for this review.)

Since this FLC Is in the orange box at the top of the FLC page I am going to do a source review since it has to be completed before it can possibly be passed for FL. Note, I have my own FLC nomination if anyone wants to reciprocate (not required). Note, while I am part of the WikiCup I am not looking to claim points for the source review I'm going to do. MPJ-DK (talk) 18:09, 8 May 2020 (UTC)
 * Source review by MPJ-DK
 * General comments
 * 7 out of 15 sources are primary, from WWE who now owns the championship. That is almost 50%, which seems less than ideal for Featured content. Keeping in mind that WWE has a tendency to write history as they want it, which is not necessarily the same as how it happened.
 * Online World of Wrestling- WP:PW/RS lists it as "unreliable" and thus needs to be replaced
 * wrestling-titles.com - is generally listed as "unproven" source wise, but I know that their pre-2000 content is mainly built on the "Wrestling Title Histories" book, which is considered about as good a source for championship history as there is, so I'll say in this context that is a reliable source.
 * Is there a location for the 2 book sources?
 * This is where using so many wwe.com articles gets dicey - they all refer to the championship by the wrong name, proving that their "fact" aren't as factual as a Featured List requires.
 * Source review oppose - unless the above issues are addressed. MPJ-DK (talk) 15:43, 18 May 2020 (UTC)
 * With the work that has done, how do you feel about the sourcing now?  Harrias  talk 12:06, 27 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Looks good now, Support MPJ-DK (talk) 14:23, 28 July 2020 (UTC)


 * Image review
 * File:WCW Light Heavyweight Championship.png - Fair use argument is appropriate, lines up with other championship belt images used on Wikipedia. Since the championship was abandoned in 1992 it is unlikely that a free use image of someone with the championship belt is available to use.
 * File:Jushin Thunder Liger.JPG - APpropriately tagged, has been on commons since 2015 with no indicators of copyright issues
 * Image review Passed MPJ-DK (talk) 18:13, 8 May 2020 (UTC)


 * I note you haven't edited since April, if we don't get a positive response to this note in a couple of days, I'll archive this nomination. Hope all is well, cheers. The Rambling Man (Stay indoors, stay safe!!!!) 09:13, 10 June 2020 (UTC)
 * I am happy to try and get this one over the line. One WWE ref (the current number 9) is needed precisely because it references the fact that WWE re-write history to suit their needs (it supports the statement that they regard the light heavyweight champions as cruiserweight champions).  I reckon I can replace the others.   - FYI -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 08:32, 24 June 2020 (UTC)
 * thanks Chris. The Rambling Man (Stay indoors, stay safe!&#33;!&#33;) 08:33, 24 June 2020 (UTC)
 * - actually I just noticed that I already supported above. If I now attempt to complete the nom, would it invalidate my support vote (the only vote so far!!)......? -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 08:34, 24 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Probably sub-optimal... but I'd rather the article was up to snuff and let the nom run for longer than have it just crash and burn. The Rambling Man (Stay indoors, stay safe!&#33;!&#33;) 08:38, 24 June 2020 (UTC)
 * WWE refs replaced with the exception of one which supports the fact that they themselves report something (so this one seems valid) -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 09:13, 24 June 2020 (UTC)
 * OWOW source also removed -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 10:00, 24 June 2020 (UTC)

Comments and support from Chidgk1
As someone with no knowledge or interest in this subject but who would like to get it sorted as I see mine is the next oldest:


 * Instead of "The WCW Light Heavyweight Championship is a defunct ..." why not simply say "The WCW Light Heavyweight Championship was a ...."?


 * Instead of " its subsequent lineage would end" why not simply say "it ended"?


 * "During this time" is confusing - should it just be deleted or is it explaining some partial time - I don't understand.


 * "Among Watts' edicts was a new rule that would depict any maneuver performed from the top rope of the ring as illegal and resulting in disqualification; this effectively ended the viability of the light heavyweight style, even though the matches involved in the championship picture had been considered "outstanding" by the fans." confuses me. Does that mean the fans got bored with it after the new rule and stopped watching on TV so the advertisers pulled out? Did only that style become unviable - did the new rule not apply to the lighter weight wrestlers? Presumably the heavier ones could not jump off the top rope anyway? I realise that it is not really a sport but a kind of pre-choreographed show, but for people new to the subject it is a little confusing.

Chidgk1 (talk) 07:52, 27 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Made some changes in response to your comments -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 18:47, 27 June 2020 (UTC)

Promoting. -- Pres N  22:14, 30 July 2020 (UTC)


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