Wikipedia:Featured list candidates/Wale discography/archive1


 * The following is an archived discussion of a featured list nomination. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the article's talk page or in Wikipedia talk:Featured list candidates. No further edits should be made to this page.

The list was not promoted by Giants2008 19:09, 24 May 2011.

Wale discography

 * Nominator(s): Michael Jester (talk) 18:18, 19 April 2011 (UTC)

I am nominating this for featured list because its lead section shows great writing skills, the lead section is well written and describes what the article is about, the article is easy to navigate, the article follows all the appropriate Manuel of Styles, and the article has visual appeal Michael Jester (talk) 18:18, 19 April 2011 (UTC)

Comments
 * What makes the mixtapes notable enough for inclusion? Are they official releases? What label were they put out by? Have they received comprehensive coverage in reliable sources? The fact they exist isn't reslly enough to warrant inclusion. The individual article pages didn't help ascertain any of this. They either have zero references or very little unreliable ones.
 * Self Made Vol. 1 says it was released on May 24, 2011.. so it hasn't been released yet, doesn't really exist, and doesn't belong on a page listing his releases. Also, it's not referenced
 * Why are the references for chart positions in the Singles' "As featured artist" table next to the positions, and not in the header, which is the accepted standard for discogs?
 * References should have publication dates where available
 * What makes http://www.hiphopdx.com/index/news/id.13318/title.wale-confirms-move-to-rick-ross-maybach-music-group a WP:Reliable source?
 * What makes the blog http://www.2dopeboyz.com/2008/06/20/wale-paint-a-picture-mixtape-req/ a RS?
 * What makes the blog http://www.getrightmusic.com/2008/05/30/wale-mixtape-about-nothing/ a RS?
 * Or any of the following:
 * http://www.5starhiphop.com/2010/wale-mixtape/ ?
 * http://vibesource.wordpress.com/2008/06/22/wale-hate-is-the-new-love-mixtape/ ?
 * http://www.thelmagazine.com/TheMeasure/archives/2010/08/04/wales-second-seinfeld-themed-mixtape-more-about-nothing-somehow-better-than-the-first ?
 * http://hiphop-n-more.com/2011/04/maybach-music-group-presents-self-made-vol-1-album-cover/ ?
 * http://www.musicvideocast.com/wale-waledance-music-video.html ?
 * http://www.prefixmag.com/media/wale/family-affair-video/29451/ ?
 * http://www.prohiphop.com/2009/11/ucb-pat-your-weave-music-video-ft-wale.html ?

Overall there's a lot of very dodgy-referenced stuff here, especially the mixtapes. I wonder, if with all the non-notable stuff removed, this wouldn't be better placed at Wale. 1 album, 7 singles, and a few more music videos..? Seems to fail Criterion 3(b) as an unnecessary fork. All that plus the poor Lede means I have to Oppose at this time. Matthewedwards : Chat  05:05, 23 April 2011 (UTC)
 * Refs 19 through 23 need correct attribution
 * "kazeem" with a K
 * names of websites, broadcasters, etc (Myspace, MTV, Ultratop, Vevo) should not be in italics in references. Only the titles of magazines, newspapers, books, journals, etc.
 * Prose in the Lede isn't a bit iffy in places. The reader shouldn't have to read the first paragraph to understand the second (It begins "The next year", requiring the reader to read the first to figure out what year.) Just start it with "In 2008"
 * What is a "hometown hit"?? Please don't say it got a couple of spins on some local radio station and was popular with clubbers and hip iPod wearing high-schoolers. Is it "Dig Dug" (Shake It) as the text says, or "Dig Dug (Shake It)"?
 * Is Maybach Music Group a record label or musical group? The prose and the table don't make it clear.
 * The mixtapes are official released. Also, I fixed most of the references problems. I still have to find a couple more, though.
 * That didn't answer my original question. Anyone can self-publish a mix tape. What makes these notable enough for inclusion? Where have they received comprehensive third party coverage? Your references just prove they exist, which I'm not disputing. Matthewedwards : Chat  22:19, 29 April 2011 (UTC)
 * Still showing "Self Made Vol 1", which hasn't been released yet. Matthewedwards : Chat  22:19, 29 April 2011 (UTC)
 * So after some research, I decided that his most recent mixtape, More About Nothing, is probably the only one that is worth including. Does this mean the others should be taken out of the lead section? I also took out the compilation album. Michael Jester (talk) 00:47, 30 April 2011 (UTC)

Have Matthew's concerns been addressed? If not this should be archived at this point. Wizardman Operation Big Bear 17:06, 24 May 2011 (UTC)
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