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The list was not promoted by User:The Rambling Man 15:40, 1 September 2008.

Wolfmother discography
Although the Wolfmother discography is short, I believe I have created a list which can be used as a template to create/improve further discographies. All charts and references are tidy and the lead section is valid and informative. I have created and edited this alone. Andre666 (talk) 14:45, 21 August 2008 (UTC)

Comments:
 * Videos --> Video albums


 * According to WikiProject Discographies/style unreleased songs and B-sides should not be included


 * All music video directors need to be sourced


 * All entries in the other appearances section need to be sourced


 * Is their any other way to source how many copies of their album were sold worldwide?


 * Fan sites should not be used (see WP:Source)

-- 00:29, 22 August 2008 (UTC)


 * Comments - Relatively a short list but not that many flaws in my eyes.
 * The album peaked at #3[2] and was subsequently released in Europe (through Island Records) and the United States (through Interscope Records) in 2006. - what is verifying the release by Island Records in EU and by Interscope Records in the US?


 * The other flaw i see is with the references, for the international charts. The publisher reads as the country which the chart belongs to but it should be the name of the publishing site not the country in which it is published.

 S R X  15:31, 22 August 2008 (UTC)

Comments
 * No links to release dates;

*Peak chart positions — reduce from 12 to 10 positions in the table;
 * You don't need to do that. So if you want to you can add it back. --Be Black Hole Sun (talk) 11:05, 28 August 2008 (UTC)


 * Worldwide sales → remove this field from the table, and add on the lead text;


 * Certifications (sales thresholds) → left-aligned (see The Mars Volta discography);


 * Where is the cat. # for Dimensions & Please Experience Wolfmother Live?


 * Singles






 * "—" denotes singles that did not chart. → "—" denotes a release that did not chart.


 * Music videos
 * Ref. = YouTube
 * YouTube is a valid and reliable source in this case as the videos are from Universal Music Group's official collection. Andre666 (talk) 16:59, 22 August 2008 (UTC)
 * References
 * Much of references not cite the correct information of which were obtained. This is a problem.
 * How's that? Andre666 (talk) 05:57, 23 August 2008 (UTC)
 * External links
 * Remove Discogs and MySpace links.


 * Add

Oppose per the current structure of this list and the poor references. Cannibaloki 16:28, 22 August 2008 (UTC)

Comments, Pt. 2
 * Album details → Video details;


 * Peak chart positions
 * for all!
 * Example:


 * Remove FRA & SWI;


 * The countries are out of order, and should be organized by the country name.

Cannibaloki 20:47, 22 August 2008 (UTC)

Comments
 * What makes the following reliable sources?
 * http://eil.com/shop/moreinfo.asp?catalogid=413088
 * http://undercover.com.au/News-Story.aspx?id=5903 would not load for me.
 * Otherwise sources look okay. Links checked out with the link checker tool. Ealdgyth - Talk 15:01, 25 August 2008 (UTC)

Comments
 * Avoid linking the names of anglophone countries and nationalities (see MOSLINK). Remove "native", since you've told us that already.
 * Avoid "currently" in this context—it won't be current in a few years' time (see MOSNUM on vague chronological items).
 * Australian date format in the tables, please. Tony   (talk)  08:51, 27 August 2008 (UTC)

Oppose
 * Just makes the 10-entries or more threshold, but I've seen other discogs opposed with more.
 * This I don't get. I have been told no more than 10 entries are allowed and so I reduced it.
 * No, it's no generally no fewer than 10 entries on any list at FLC. See the current discussion at WT:FLC. KT Tunstall discography failed because of a lack of entries on its first attempt. Matthewedwards (talk • contribs • email) 21:02, 29 August 2008 (UTC)

contribs • email) 21:02, 29 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Page isn't up to date, despite the word "currently". According to Wolfmother, new group members have been found. This page should be updated
 * What? Nothing anywhere says new members have been found.
 * "Stockdale has two Americans lined up to replace the former band members in order to continue work on the second Wolfmother album. " it implies that he has found their replacements although I didn't check the reference Matthewedwards (talk • contribs • email) 21:02, 29 August 2008 (UTC)
 * "The album peaked at #3[1]" can the reference be put after punctuation?
 * What punctuation? There is only a full stop at the end but that reference only backs up the chart position, not the whole sentence.
 * OK Matthewedwards (talk •


 * the quote "irreconcilable personal and musical differences" needs a citation
 * There is a citation at the end of the sentence!
 * Citing sources A reference should follow the quote. Matthewedwards (talk • contribs • email) 21:02, 29 August 2008 (UTC)


 * ""—" denotes a release that did not chart." they were all released in those markets, then?


 * UK Albums Chart is not the publisher of http://www.chartstats.com/ Also, the reference points to the main page, rather than anything specific, and there are more reliable websites than this one for the UK. http://www.theofficialcharts.com/ has http://www.theofficialcharts.com/top40_singles_archive.php, but the BBC recommend http://www.everyhit.co.uk/
 * In fact, refs [5] to [13] all point to the main pages of the sites, rather than anything specific


 * eil.com is a shopping website. Can a better reference be found?
 * No, I cannot find one. Someone needs to scan a copy of their DVD in to show the cat. #.
 * The onus is on the nominator or other active editors of the article, not reviewers. Matthewedwards (talk • contribs • email) 21:02, 29 August 2008 (UTC)
 * 19 to 25 are youtube videos.
 * They are published by the band's record label, thus reliable!
 * YouTube message for me whem I try watch these videos: "This video is not available in your country." Canniba  loki  20:43, 29 August 2008 (UTC)


 * The general reference isn't needed when you have the external link
 * The general reference isn't needed when you have the external link

Matthewedwards (talk • contribs • email) 08:21, 28 August 2008 (UTC)

Comments


 * ""American chart". Billboard. Retrieved on August 8, 2008." doesn't link to a specific page; it just links to Billboard's homepage.


 * "Wolfmother was formed in 2003 by guitarist and vocalist Andrew Stockdale, bassist and keyboardist Chris Ross and drummer Myles Heskett. The band signed with Modular Recordings and released the EP Wolfmother in 2004." needs a reference

Gary King ( talk ) 21:52, 29 August 2008 (UTC)
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