Wikipedia:Featured list candidates/World Food Prize/archive1


 * The following is an archived discussion of a featured list nomination. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the article's talk page or in Wikipedia talk:Featured list candidates. No further edits should be made to this page.

The list was promoted by Giants2008 via FACBot (talk) 00:26, 27 December 2021 (UTC).

World Food Prize

 * Nominator(s): DTM (talk) 10:27, 6 December 2021 (UTC)

A list of people who have "increased the quantity, quality, and availability of, or access to food". I've tried to add basic list and FLC features such as the sortname templates, the unsortable parameter, column scopes, and row scopes. Except for three laureates, I have used two references - one from the worldfoodprize.org website and the second from a reference other than the World Food Prize website. This is mainly to address any primary source issues. DTM (talk) 10:27, 6 December 2021 (UTC)

Procedural note
@ The FLC instruction state: "Nominators should not add a second featured list nomination until the first has gained substantial support and reviewers' concerns have been substantially addressed." This generally means 2 supports and no outstanding oppose. You currently have an open featured list nomination, Timeline of the 2020–2021 China–India skirmishes, which has no supports. Kavyansh.Singh (talk) 10:37, 6 December 2021 (UTC)
 * I thought that was done with for now and closed. Can't we remove it from this list? DTM (talk) 10:41, 6 December 2021 (UTC)
 * Sure, if you wish to "withdraw" Timeline of the 2020–2021 China–India skirmishes, you can again request the same on the nomination page, pinging any of the FLC delegates or the FLC director. It would probably be closed. Then we would be fine to proceed with this one. Kavyansh.Singh (talk) 10:46, 6 December 2021 (UTC)
 * I have requested the withdrawal and pinged a FL delegate. DTM (talk) 11:09, 6 December 2021 (UTC)

Collapsing as the FLC in question has been archived by TRM. Kavyansh.Singh (talk) 13:10, 6 December 2021 (UTC)

Comments from Kavyansh.Singh

 * Full review to follow, but I first wanted to know your reasoning as to why was this separate list created when a similar list existed in the main "World Food Prize" article? The FL criteria states "In length and/or topic, it meets all of the requirements for stand-alone lists; does not violate the content-forking guideline, does not largely duplicate material from another article, and could not reasonably be included as part of a related article." In my opinion, the main World Food Prize article itself could have nominated for FL without a separate list being created (Example: United States Secretary of Transportation, a FL). Moreover, the prose section of the list is just 760 characters, less for an FL. Kavyansh.Singh (talk) 13:52, 6 December 2021 (UTC)


 * I concur with Kavyansh Singh; there is no reason to have separate pages for the prize itself and the list of winners. As it stands this list is sorely lacking in prose context and the lead is far too short to receive my support. Please recombine them and renominate if that material is ready. Reywas92Talk 14:55, 6 December 2021 (UTC)
 * I also agree with the above comments. My suggestion would be to return the list to World Food Prize and bring that page up to FL status. RunningTiger123 (talk) 19:26, 6 December 2021 (UTC)
 * ,, ; I have combined the list and now there is just one page. DTM (talk) 03:37, 7 December 2021 (UTC)
 * Based on my past experiences, FACBot gets confused if you move a page during an open nomination ( can any of you confirm?). I would suggest closing this nomination and opening a new one at World Food Prize to prevent those kinds of issues. RunningTiger123 (talk) 04:22, 7 December 2021 (UTC)
 * It does get confused if the article talk page template doesn't directly point to the nomination (redirects are no good), but it's fine, I'll sort it out, we don't expect nominators to have to deal with bot issues themselves. -- Pres N  14:23, 7 December 2021 (UTC)
 * Sorted; I'm pretty sure updating the talk page template is all it takes, but I went ahead and just moved the nomination page to the new title and updated the pointers instead. -- Pres N  14:26, 7 December 2021 (UTC)
 * Thanks for doing that! RunningTiger123 (talk) 16:05, 7 December 2021 (UTC)
 * Yes, thank you. DTM (talk) 15:29, 8 December 2021 (UTC)

Continuing with my review:
 * The amount they agreed to was equivalent to the value of the Nobel Prizes at the time. — but how much was the amount?
 * In 2000, Kenneth M. Quinn was made the President. — Per MOS:JOBTITLE, 'President' shouldn't be capitalized.
 * Borlaug, Ruan and Quinn → "Borlaug, Ruan, and Quinn" (per oxford comma)
 * from Iowa — suggesting to specify "from the US state of Iowa", as well as link Iowa
 * Barbara Stinson would succeed → "Barbara Stinson later succeeded"
 * Other sponsors over time have included over 100 charitable foundations, corporations and individuals, who have helped sustain the prize and the Foundation's associated events. — Ref#5 should be before Ref#15
 * Youth Institute — why is it capitalized?
 * I capitalized it according to the reference used. I have now shifted this down and expanded it. The new reference also capitalizes it. DTM (talk) 13:50, 11 December 2021 (UTC)


 * first Chairman — MOS:JOBTITLE
 * Currently Gebisa Ejeta, — I think there should be a comma after 'Currently'
 * is the chair — chairperson? chairman?
 * Few MOS issues here. I think we should comply with WP:COMMONNAME.
 * Michael G. Gartner — our Wikipedia article calls him just Michael Gartner
 * Gregory Geoffroy — our Wikipedia article calls him Gregory L. Geoffroy
 * Corazon C. Aquino — our Wikipedia article calls her just Corazon Aquino
 * Robert S. McNamara — our Wikipedia article calls him just Robert McNamara
 * Jonathan F. Taylor — our Wikipedia article calls him just Jonathan Taylor
 * I had changed this as per your comment above. However, comments below suggest I remove the prominence given to advisors. So I've done away with mention of the advisors. DTM (talk) 13:50, 11 December 2021 (UTC)


 * Laureates are honored and officially awarded their prize in Des Moines, Iowa, — Iowa should be linked on its prior instance
 * Is there a reason why we are copying the names given by "worldfoodprize.org", when our manual of style advises us to use the most common name by which reliable sources refer to a person. In the table, I think we should use the name which the title of our Wikipedia article uses, unless there is a good reason not to do so. For example, "Robert Dole" should be "Bob Dole".
 * I have made the changes to the names. The reason I had used names as used by the awarding foundation was because of the note at List of Nobel laureates in Physics. However, now that I go through other lists, including the other Nobel lists, this is not the standard. DTM (talk) 13:50, 11 December 2021 (UTC)

"That's all I have on a quick pass." Kavyansh.Singh (talk) 18:07, 8 December 2021 (UTC)
 * Are the people in the table which do not have Wikipedia articles notable enough to red-link?
 * increased rice production — linking rice seems over-linking to me.
 * I have made the changes. I have left explanations for some comments. DTM (talk) 13:50, 11 December 2021 (UTC)


 * I support this list for its promotion as a featured list. Nice work! – Kavyansh.Singh (talk) 15:51, 17 December 2021 (UTC)

Comments by RunningTiger123
With the procedural issues worked out, here's my full review.
 * Images need alt text
 * "Awarded for" portion of the infobox is detailed and seems like a quote from somewhere; if it is a quote, add a citation, and if it isn't, don't add so many details
 * "by John Ruan, businessman and philanthropist, and his family" → "by businessman and philanthropist John Ruan and his family."
 * Don't wikilink to United States dollar every time "USD" is written per MOS:OVERLINK
 * Infobox uses "US$" but body uses "USD"; pick one option and stick with it
 * "(1987-2008)" → "(1987–2008)"
 * Norman Borlaug should be wikilinked at its first appearance in the body ("Norman Borlaug was awarded...") instead of at "Norman Borlaug (1987-2008)"
 * "A.S. Clausi" → "A. S. Clausi" and "M.S. Swaminathan" → "M. S. Swaminathan" (latter occurs twice)
 * Country and year columns in table should probably be sortable
 * If there are two or more laureates in a year, the table currently groups them together in a single row, like so:
 * However, this doesn't allow the sorting to work fully, as some names are permanently grouped together. Also, if lines wrap around, the alignment between nominees and countries may not match up exactly. To fix this, list each laureate in a separate row, like so:


 * Refer to similar FLs such as List of Nobel laureates in Physics to see this in action.

— RunningTiger123 (talk) 17:51, 7 December 2021 (UTC)
 * RunningTiger123, done. I have addressed the above comments. The table is looking much better. Thanks! DTM (talk) 15:26, 8 December 2021 (UTC)

Support – I made a few small tweaks to grammar, but everything else looks really good. Nice job! RunningTiger123 (talk) 16:59, 8 December 2021 (UTC)

Comments from Reywas92
Very nice overall! Reywas92Talk 17:51, 8 December 2021 (UTC)
 * No colon after "such as" but there should be a comma before it
 * I'd say what Borlaug won the Nobel Peace Prize for, indicates the background/relevance.
 * No space after US$
 * "US$" only needs to be used the first time, after that it's obvious what currency $ is.
 * "Stinson would succeed Quinn" -> "Stinson succeeded Quinn" just use the simple past tense
 * "sponsors over time have included" -> "sponsors have included"
 * "provide stimulus to the young" is strange wording, maybe be more specific
 * Is "World Food Prize Laureate Selection Committee" the official proper noun? Otherwise lowercase.
 * Borlaug's lifespan should be when he's first mentioned at the start of the section, not later when called chairman
 * "Borlaug would appoint" -> "Borlaug appointed"
 * I don't think the board of advisors from 2005 is relevant enough to list. That was current when the book was written but not now. Advisory boards aren't typically listed on Wikipedia anyway, especially when it's not clear how involved they actually are...Bush and Carter probably had other things to do.
 * lowercase "chamber"
 * The "Laureates" paragraph isn't so much history, belongs in the lead instead.
 * IRRI, SIT, and NERICA acronyms aren't used elsewhere so they don't need to be given.
 * , changes made as per these comments. Hope I didn't miss anything. Thanks. DTM (talk) 13:50, 11 December 2021 (UTC)
 * Support Thanks for your nice work on this article. Any comments at Featured list candidates/National preserve/archive1 would be appreciated as well. Reywas92Talk 14:40, 16 December 2021 (UTC)

Image review — Pass

 * ALT text seems just fine.
 * File:World Food Prize logo.jpg needs a stronger Non-free image rational. "n.a." or black columns are not appropriate for non-free rational.
 * , I have made changes to the supporting rationale over at File:World Food Prize logo.jpg. However, this particular image in its current format is hardly used on the website at present. Should I go ahead and remove it? Can anything replace it? DTM (talk) 13:50, 11 December 2021 (UTC)


 * File:Dr. Shakuntala Haraksingh Thilsted - World Food Prize Laureate.jpg — Not sure whether images takes for official Twitter account of US government organizations comply with the fact that the image is "a work of a United States Agency for International Development employee, taken or made as part of that person's official duties". Kavyansh.Singh (talk) 18:32, 8 December 2021 (UTC)
 * I removed the picture. DTM (talk) 13:50, 11 December 2021 (UTC)
 * Pass for image review. Kavyansh.Singh (talk) 14:08, 11 December 2021 (UTC)

Source review — Pass
Some minor citation inconsistencies: Reliability Rest most looks good! Kavyansh.Singh (talk) 17:17, 11 December 2021 (UTC)
 * Center-align the references in the "Ref." column.
 * Suggesting to archive all the reference, preferable using this tool.
 * There is inconsistency in writing the date format. Currently, there is mixture of "YYYY-MM-DD" (2021-12-05) and "DD Month Year" (19 June 2014). Upto you which style to choose, but it should be consistent within the article.
 * There is inconsistency in linking the work/publisher/newspaper/website. Few are linked (like The Des Moines Register), while other are unlinked (like The Guardian, The Economic Times)
 * Suggesting to remove "Dallas, Texas" as location in a Bibliography, as it is inconsistent with the article.
 * The short footnote for Hesser 2006 work is "Hesser, The Man Who Fed the World (2006)". The title of the book is not mentioned in the short footnote of Quinn 2015. Upto you which style to choose, but it should be consistent within the article. (And if you chose to add the book title to the short footnote, write the book title in italics.
 * Ref#2 — "Iowa Legislature" should be in the publisher parameter.
 * Ref#3 — Publisher should be just "The White House"
 * Ref#8 — "The World Food Prize Foundation" should be in the publisher parameter.
 * Ref#14 — The title should be lowercased. And in the quote parameter: (1) the curly quote should be fixed (’ to ') (2) There should be a non-breaking space between the text and the ellipsis.
 * Ref#15 — Missing author
 * Ref#18 — "Institute of Food Technologists" should be in the publisher parameter.
 * Ref#21 — "Hall of Laureates" should be in website parameter
 * Ref#27 — website title should be replaced from "rockfound.rockarch.org" to "Rockefeller Foundation"
 * Ref#29 — missing author
 * Ref#31 — Add url access date, and 'via=Taylor & Francis'
 * Ref#38 — Remove "(UPI)" from title
 * Ref#42 — either SWI or Swissinfo
 * Ref#52 — I don't think we use abbreviation in sources ("(CIMMYT)"). Better remove.
 * Ref#67 — 'IFIS Publishing' should be moved to 'publisher=' parameter
 * Ref#69 — Remove abbreviation
 * Ref#96 — same
 * Ref#77 — Add Columbia Climate School as publisher
 * Ref#80 — can you crosscheck the title.
 * Ref#81 — 'University of Illinois Foundation' should be in the publisher parameter.
 * Ref#90 — 'MS Swaminathan Research Foundation' should be in the publisher parameter.
 * https://www.world-grain.com/articles/10566-world-food-prize-names-new-chair-for-laureate-selection-committee — why is this reliable?
 * https://www.seedquest.com/News/releases/2006/october/17249.htm — same as above
 * I have replaced this source with a better one. Hope you don't mind ...– Kavyansh.Singh (talk) 15:50, 17 December 2021 (UTC)
 * , done! Thanks for mentioning the archiving tool. Im not sure why I have never used one before. DTM (talk) 15:04, 17 December 2021 (UTC)
 * Everything seems good, pass for source review. – Kavyansh.Singh (talk) 15:50, 17 December 2021 (UTC)

Giants2008 ( Talk ) 22:13, 26 December 2021 (UTC)
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