Wikipedia:Featured list removal candidates/List of Kansas City Chiefs starting quarterbacks/archive1


 * The following is an archived discussion of a featured list removal nomination. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the article's talk page or in Wikipedia talk:Featured list candidates. No further edits should be made to this page.

The list was removed by Dabomb87 00:15, 8 April 2011.

List of Kansas City Chiefs starting quarterbacks

 * Notified: Conman33, WikiProject National Football League

I am nominating this for featured list removal because I believe it does not meet the criteria. -- Cheetah  (talk)  08:58, 6 March 2011 (UTC)
 * 1) The lead should be updated. The recent season it states is 2008.
 * 2) The Notes subsection doesn't have a "c" note.
 * 3) There are several dead links in the references, which may take some time to fix.
 * 4) The list isn't as comprehensive as it should be. The statistics and records of quarterbacks from the main page should be moved to this list. That article will only benefit from getting rid of those sectins.
 * 5) The quarterbacks from the post-season are missing for no reason.
 * On the last point, the main article is also two seasons out of date. It may need a GAR. (And caution should be taken before anyone copies stuff from there to here.) Courcelles 20:40, 6 March 2011 (UTC)

Comments nomination comments all need addressing, my variations below, currently a delist for me as well though. The Rambling Man (talk) 19:02, 6 March 2011 (UTC)
 * Lead needs minor update to encompass the fact it's now 2011.
 * Four links noted as "dead" although I haven't checked them, sometimes H3llbot can be a little enthusiastic... Either way the tag needs removing or the links fixing.
 * Table needs col/row scopes.
 * Images could use alt text.
 * What do you mean by "col/row scopes"?-- Cheetah   (talk)  06:50, 7 March 2011 (UTC)
 * See Manual of Style (accessibility)/Data tables tutorial, section 1, Overview of basics. Courcelles 06:56, 7 March 2011 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the link. Is it for the screen readers, basically? Because I didn't notice any difference with or without the scopes.-- Cheetah  (talk)  03:13, 8 March 2011 (UTC)
 * The row scopes will cause that cell to appear grey and bold; though the "plainrowheaders" argument in the table header can remove the bold. Yes, this is for the screenreaders. Courcelles 03:16, 8 March 2011 (UTC)
 * I've updated the lead; though it may need some tweaking for clarity. 00:01, 9 March 2011 (UTC)

Remove – In addition to the issues raised above, I noticed several other things, which combined with what has been found already push me to the delist side for now.
 * I checked the four links marked as dead, and unfortunately the bot wasn't "enthusiastic" in this case. They are all dead. This is a significant problem, especially considering that one of the links is the most-used reference in the article.
 * The last couple sentences of the first paragraph could use citations.
 * American Football League is overlinked in the lead.
 * There are a bunch of bare years linked to season pages in the lead and notes. Can this be cut down on somewhat, or can some of the links be converted to the more pleasing "xxxx season" format? The less blue that appears useless at first glance, the better.
 * Caption: "Warren Moon started one game in 2000 for the Chiefs, his final season in professional football." The flow would be better if "for the Chiefs" was moved to after "one game". Even in a caption, high quality should be sought after.
 * As for something touched on earlier, why are we still asking for alt text in lists when the FA criteria no longer mandates it? It seems like we should be following their lead, no?  Giants2008  ( 27 and counting ) 23:30, 16 March 2011 (UTC)
 * As for alt text, I think "why not?" if we're prepared to do it. There was an almighty kerfuffle about it a while back I seem to recall, but basic and non-controversial alt text is better than nothing.  As far as I'm concerned, why shouldn't FA follow our lead?  (In the words of a certain song, FLC does it better and it really does make me feel sad for the rest......) The Rambling Man (talk) 20:23, 24 March 2011 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive. Please do not modify it. No further edits should be made to this page.