Wikipedia:Featured list removal candidates/Powderfinger discography/archive1


 * The following is an archived discussion of a featured list nomination. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the article's talk page or in Wikipedia talk:Featured list candidates. No further edits should be made to this page.

The list was Kept by 06:49, 10 March 2013‎.

Powderfinger discography

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This list has ten dead links which fail Wikipedia's WP:V policy, it has sourcing to websites such as Discogs and Youtube, and it contains inaccuracies between the infobox and the lead. The 'Other appearances' section is in complete error as it contains some of their songs that are on compilation albums like So Fresh, which are not actual "other appearances", just that their song was featured on a compilation. I'm also concerned that the layout of this list is not the requirement for typical discographies. Till 12:51, 7 January 2013 (UTC)

Delist References need to be more reputable and reliable sources. Tables do not meet MOS:DTT, in its current state it's definitely not our best work. NapHit (talk) 01:31, 8 January 2013 (UTC)

Keep I believe I've addressed all these concerns. The article should now be at current FL standard.shaidar cuebiyar (talk) 08:58, 11 January 2013 (UTC)


 * Keep, after some amazing improvements by . — Statυs  ( talk,  contribs ) 02:18, 13 January 2013 (UTC)


 * Keep, per significant improvements. A big thanks to User:Shaidar cuebiyar for all the improvements.  Lankiveil (speak to me) 11:42, 17 February 2013 (UTC).

Comments  Good raise  22:50, 30 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Ref. 26 is incorrect and the website it links to is questionable. (Information removed.)
 * Ref. 40 does not state that Viner was the director.
 * Ref. 43 does not state a director as far as I can tell. (Perhaps the website looks differently for me.)
 * Ref. 46 is a reliable source because?
 * Ref. 51 is a reliable source because?

Replies
 * 1) In what way is the information incorrect?
 * 2) The ref has "Powderfinger On My Mind (V2) 2003 (22.11.2003): 180 (-/1) Love Your Way (V2) 2004 (27.03.2004): 125 (-/1) " Which verifies the charting claimed.
 * 3) As for Tobias Zywietz' site being questionable, I dispute this. It has existed since 1994, it derives its data from Charts Information Network (CIN) and The Official Charts Company (OCC). If there any more reliable on-line sites for such charting I would be happy to use them.
 * 4) The ref was accepted at the Kanye West discography FLC with the following comment by proposer (Holiday56): "Zobbel is the primary source used for UK chart positions below 100, and sources its information from official UK chart media. Several featured lists also use the site as a source".
 * 5) The ref states that Viner's "work has won local and international awards including Suzuki's 2009 'Story of the SUV-Asaurus', the 2003 animated music video for Brisbane band Powderfinger 'Sunsets', and most recently Best Children’s Animation at Mipcom Cannes for Polly Pockets 2010". [Emphasis mine].
 * 6) I'm having trouble here too. Might have to delete this ref.
 * 7) Head Pictures is the video production company, which is run by Escott, Lance and Baker.
 * 8) Concedo. I'll have to find a better one for this.shaidar cuebiyar (talk) 08:40, 1 February 2013 (UTC)
 * 9) What's incorrect is the publisher. It's not Official Charts Company. As for Zobbel.de, there's not one convincing argument in what you said about the site. Suggest consulting WP:RS.
 * 10) Although I think this is a reliable source for chart positions below 100, I've decided to remove the whole column of UK charting until an alternative ref can be found (if ever).shaidar cuebiyar (talk) 23:29, 2 February 2013 (UTC)
 * 11) Yes, it says his work won awards, but his work as what? Director? It doesn't say that.
 * Revisited.  Good raise  04:43, 2 February 2013 (UTC)


 * 1) I believe its a matter of implicit rather than explicit. He is a director (see second and fourth paragraphs), he worked on "Sunsets": implies he directed "Sunsets". A further ref for his being a director with Liquid Animation has been supplied. I hope this is sufficient.shaidar cuebiyar (talk) 23:29, 2 February 2013 (UTC)
 * Delist . The article violates WP:SYNTH to assert that Michael Viner directed "Sunsets", cites what appears to be some sort of music wiki and the presumably user contributed description of a video on a video sharing website.  Good raise  16:16, 18 February 2013 (UTC)
 * I hope I've suitably addressed these issues.shaidar cuebiyar (talk) 07:39, 22 February 2013 (UTC)
 * Still have doubts about references 43 (now 44) and 51 (now 52).  Good raise  21:42, 2 March 2013 (UTC)


 * Reliability of this? Till  06:04, 23 February 2013 (UTC)
 * Disputed source has been removed.shaidar cuebiyar (talk) 04:58, 24 February 2013 (UTC)
 * Okay, but this? And I have no more concerns for this list except for this source. Till  12:38, 3 March 2013 (UTC)
 * Sorry about the delay, didn't see this until today. I've removed both hindleysite.com uses and replaced with Amazon.com and Allmusic.shaidar cuebiyar (talk) 00:37, 10 March 2013 (UTC)


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