Wikipedia:Featured picture candidates/ΔFosB

ΔFosB
Voting period ends on 31 Aug 2014  at 20:44:56 (UTC)


 * Reason:It's an interactive image that illustrates the fairly technical process/mechanisms through which addiction to stimulants occurs. It's been linked on the talkpages of three relevant wikiprojects (WP:MCB, WP:MED, WP:PHARM) for feedback prior to this nomination.
 * Articles in which this image appears:FosB/ΔFosB, Amphetamine, Methamphetamine, Behavioral epigenetics
 * FP category for this image:Featured pictures/Diagrams, drawings, and maps/Diagrams
 * Creator:Seppi333


 * Support as nominator –  Seppi  333  (Insert 2¢ &#124; Maintained) 20:44, 21 August 2014 (UTC)
 * Hmm. I'm inclined to Support, but this is one of the most unusual noms I've seen in a while. I'm mainly worried about the technical problems, e.g. how do we put it into a gallery; how do we put it on PotD, etc. Crisco 1492, Armbrust, can we have some commentary on this aspect? Either way, though, I think we should promote it, but we might want to make its own section at FP, for such interactive images. Adam Cuerden (talk) 11:02, 22 August 2014 (UTC)
 * The image will be added to the gallery as every other image, the links in the template are not part of the image. There is no need for a separate section. Armbrust The Homunculus 13:01, 22 August 2014 (UTC)
 * Small technical comment. (Win 7 / IE11) In the actual SVG image at http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/47/%CE%94FosB.svg, the black arrow heads, which apparently should be solid black, appear white with a black border, with the coloured line visibly protruding into the arrow head. In the rendering on this page, and in media viewer, they appear solid black. I'm not sure whether this is a bug in IE rendering or a bug in the SVG. 217.44.214.6 (talk) 14:05, 22 August 2014 (UTC)
 * It's a bug in SVG, though I didn't bother correcting it since the image renders correctly once converted to PNG. It appears that way regardless of the browser used.   Seppi  333  (Insert 2¢ &#124; Maintained) 06:02, 26 August 2014 (UTC)


 * Oppose No idea about the accuracy of what is depicted, but definitely needs polishing. It really looks like the kind of diagram one would find in secondary/high school report on a first sight. Even though it's correct, I think it takes more than just accuracy to get FP tag. - Blieusong (talk) 10:09, 23 August 2014 (UTC)
 * This image would be featured for its encyclopedic value, not primarily its artistic value. You are on extremely loose footing calling this "high-school" quality, even if you only mean the artistic choices. -- CFCF  🍌 (email) 11:03, 23 August 2014 (UTC)
 * I do realize that EV gets the priority over here. But it's still featured picture candidate and so we can't do anything artistically wise, which was the point of my comment. I don't ask for Picasso grade diagrams, but at the very least, this candidate should use sans serif fonts, and be less cluttered. - Blieusong (talk) 16:28, 23 August 2014 (UTC)
 * I agree with you that this diagram is nothing special in terms of execution. It is easy to find lots of small niggles. I could not comment on other aspects. I do not wish to denigrate the picture overall, as it may be excellent in terms of information content. 86.130.67.100 (talk) 19:59, 23 August 2014 (UTC)
 * The diagram uses sans, though I'll point out that font style isn't a criteria for FP. My apologies if it's too complicated for you though; the diagram is geared towards individuals with more than a secondary/high school education.  Seppi  333  (Insert 2¢ &#124; Maintained) 04:32, 26 August 2014 (UTC)
 * OH! What font are you using? It isn't showing up properly on my computer... Are you using Inkscape or illustrator to edit this? Illustrator has an option to convert all text to outline - which will get rid of all the issues. If you don't use it everyone will need the correct font installed (including the MediaWiki software, which has a very limited number of fonts). -- CFCF  🍌 (email) 05:33, 26 August 2014 (UTC)
 * P.S.It will make the image harder to edit, but the trick here is to save an image for editing with the text as normal as well, and upload it for reference. -- CFCF  🍌 (email) 05:35, 26 August 2014 (UTC)
 * I used Inkscape to write it; I can change the text to Inkscape's "Microsoft sans serif" font if you think it'll look better.  Seppi  333  (Insert 2¢ &#124; Maintained) 05:56, 26 August 2014 (UTC)
 * Add: Inkscape's sans serif isn't in wikimedia software.  Seppi  333  (Insert 2¢ &#124; Maintained) 05:57, 26 August 2014 (UTC)
 * comment What are those green rectangles? They should be labelled. I'm assuming they are Adenylate cyclase, in which case they should be bound to the membrane right? Mattximus (talk) 14:02, 24 August 2014 (UTC)
 * The issue is that they are labeled in the template, but not in the svg itself. Check the template link.-- CFCF  🍌 (email) 21:29, 24 August 2014 (UTC)
 * They're G proteins. I omitted AC to reduce the number of nodes in the cascade.  Seppi  333  (Insert 2¢ &#124; Maintained) 04:51, 26 August 2014 (UTC)


 * Comment: Not sure if it's relevant for this FPC, but the template's using red text to represent transcription factors is confusing. I initially thought they were red links. --Paul_012 (talk) 08:16, 25 August 2014 (UTC)
 * I don't mind changing it; what color do you suggest as a substitute?  Seppi  333  (Insert 2¢ &#124; Maintained) 04:32, 26 August 2014 (UTC)
 * Actually, I've given it some further thought and think it might be a better idea to have the text in the image itself and using an image map to provide the links. This would help avoid the problem of the stand-alone image being unusable. --Paul_012 (talk) 09:52, 26 August 2014 (UTC)

--Armbrust The Homunculus 20:45, 31 August 2014 (UTC)