Wikipedia:Featured picture candidates/Christ, a gardener.jpg

Christ by Titian - oil on canvas, Prado Museum Madrid - 1553
Voting period ends on 14 Mar 2015  at 07:22:12 (UTC)
 * Reason:EV + HQ
 * Articles in which this image appears:Son of man + Titian
 * FP category for this image:Featured pictures/Culture, entertainment, and lifestyle/Religion and mythology
 * Creator:Titian


 * Support as nominator – Alborzagros (talk) 07:22, 4 March 2015 (UTC)
 * Oppose - Really, there are a million pictures of Christ which could probably be used in the article "son of man". Furthermore, isn't this just a detail? — Crisco 1492 (talk) 09:02, 4 March 2015 (UTC)
 * The word __million__ is sort of exaggeration. It'd better to adduce from Featured picture criteria than other things. ___Alborzagros (talk) 09:58, 4 March 2015 (UTC)____
 * Commons - Probably meant a million of pictures of Christ on commons, not in the article. The idea is not bad. Hafspajen (talk) 10:26, 4 March 2015 (UTC)
 * Could be used, not are used. With 2,000 years of people trying to depict Christ, a million is not an exaggeration. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 10:30, 4 March 2015 (UTC)
 * I believe 4 factors are needed to make a picture as FP not any other things are included. you consider that is Christ's portrait not any other subject like Son of man and etc. plz check the painting with the subject of Christ. Alborzagros (talk) 10:54, 4 March 2015 (UTC)
 * High quality
 * encyclopedic value
 * righteous framing
 * using in articles
 * And there are probably a good thousand or so depictions of Christ on Commons that meet the first three criteria. That this is used instead of the others is not necessarily an indication that it is worthy of being FP (especially since it is a detail) — Crisco 1492 (talk) 00:04, 5 March 2015 (UTC)
 * Comment - Alborzagros, Crisco. Jesus actually did called himself So of Man. True. Because of this, it should be illustrated from those parts of the script, were he mentions this fact. I am on the case. If I find a good picture we can go co-nom, Alborzagros, OK? Hafspajen (talk) 11:51, 4 March 2015 (UTC)
 * Also, this - Christ, a gardener - it is a bit confusing. I don't know of any specifical history there as Christ was acting as a gardener or mentioned himself as one. Could be however the part when  Maria Magdalena is  confusing him with the garderner... (?) at the tomb. Hafspajen (talk) 11:54, 4 March 2015 (UTC)
 * Yes, that was the part: here and here. Hafspajen (talk) 11:59, 4 March 2015 (UTC)
 * Aha! found a picture. A Rembrandt. But is a bad John 20 14.jpg file.  But here we could maybe get a bigger file?  christ_mary_magdalene_huge Hafspajen (talk) 12:03, 4 March 2015 (UTC)
 * Found an other one, that's good. [[File:Claude Lorrain - Landscape with Christ appearing to St. Mary Magdalene ("Noli me tangere") - Google Art Project.jpg|28px]]. Hafspajen (talk) 12:07, 4 March 2015 (UTC)


 * Support Subtly and recognisably in the typical style of Titian's religious works. Samsara 05:54, 5 March 2015 (UTC)
 * Oppose; were it not for the slightly surprising support above, I'd suggest a speedy close. I am not seeing how it is particularly valuable in son of man, and it certainly is not FP-level valuable in Titian- it was recently added to a gallery, and is a detail of a larger painting. Josh Milburn (talk) 09:04, 5 March 2015 (UTC)
 * Was not supporting. Just was trying to find an other picture maybe. Details are generaly not nominated. But I think the theme is very interesting. Christ as gardener could be an interesting article, and from there an other pic could be nominated instead of this. This is a detail. Waiting for Alborzagros to tell meif he is interested in an other pic of Christ, the gardener....  and an article. I like the idea. Hafspajen (talk) 00:01, 6 March 2015 (UTC)
 * The support I was referring to was Samsara's. Josh Milburn (talk) 16:50, 7 March 2015 (UTC)
 * Comment - Hm, it is actually not a detail, it is a fragment ... that's a bit different. It is all what is left of the painting. Hafspajen (talk) 14:52, 6 March 2015 (UTC)
 * That's odd... where did I see "Detail" then? — Crisco 1492 (talk) 23:49, 6 March 2015 (UTC)
 * Confusing, this one. But either way, it should have an own article. And it has no EV in Son of man. Hafspajen (talk) 00:54, 7 March 2015 (UTC)
 * There are two ways to go: one, write article on Christ as gardener, or Christ as gardener (Titian) - or proceed with the Son of man, if Alborzagros prefers that theme - and I think he might, because in the muslim faith they  see Jesus as a great prophet, Issa. However not the same way as Christians.  More like the Son of man approach. I can do any of them. Hafspajen (talk) 13:09, 7 March 2015 (UTC)

--Armbrust The Homunculus 07:56, 14 March 2015 (UTC)