Wikipedia:Featured picture candidates/Clevedon Pier 2013.jpg

Clevedon Pier
Voting period ends on 19 Aug 2015  at 14:04:48 (UTC)
 * Reason:EV + HQ
 * Articles in which this image appears:Clevedon Pier
 * FP category for this image:Featured pictures/Places/Architecture
 * Creator:Saffron Blaze


 * Support as nominator – Alborzagros (talk) 14:04, 9 August 2015 (UTC)
 * Support -- Really striking. Ayesha23 (talk) 18:23, 9 August 2015 (UTC)
 * Oppose - Striking and beautiful, yes. EV? No. We can make out the silhouette of the pier, but we can't tell anything else about it. What color? What materials? — Chris Woodrich (talk) 23:32, 9 August 2015 (UTC)
 * Yes, I understand the force of that, but I'll stay with my support. Not a pier architecture wallah myself, but there must be stuff you can ascertain from the silhouette. Ayesha23 (talk) 11:30, 10 August 2015 (UTC)


 * Support --Jobas (talk) 11:22, 10 August 2015 (UTC)
 * Oppose Agree with Chris Woodrich - lovely pretty picture, but use on an Encyclopedia is questionable due to lack of detail visable. No doubt a contender for Commons, but not up to FP standard sorry. gaz hiley  11:48, 10 August 2015 (UTC)
 * Oppose – Per Chris, gazhiley. – Sca (talk) 12:54, 10 August 2015 (UTC)
 * Oppose - Per Crisco, nice photograph, but not encyclopedic as it lacks many details as a silhouette, it's not even the lead image for this pier. Mattximus (talk) 22:28, 10 August 2015 (UTC)
 * Support I would agree with Chris, gazhiley, Sca, and Mattximus because I want to be on the winning side, but I'm going for the plucky underdog role as the Betjeman quote gives this picture some EV; "the most beautiful pier in England" and this photo shows you why; sure, it might be beautiful in the daylight too, but you can't say this shows it it a bad light. Belle (talk) 23:27, 10 August 2015 (UTC)
 * Oppose per Chris. --Tremonist (talk) 12:53, 11 August 2015 (UTC)
 * Support. I disagree on the opposition's EV assessment. Having it backlit in this manner makes it easier to see the architectural structure of the pier. In his oppose, Chris Woodrich asks "What color? What materials?" To which I would respond that you can certainly tell by the structure in this image that the pier would have to be made out of metal, as wood that thin would not be able to support itself. As far as color, yes that is difficult to determine on this image, but I think the aesthetic quality of this image outweighs the negative of the pier not being seen in true color. And technically, color is an illusion created by your brain anyway. Rreagan007 (talk) 18:05, 12 August 2015 (UTC)
 * "technically, color is an illusion created by your brain anyway." - The same argument could be made for running all B&W pictures, or a photograph of a valley with a red sky and purple earth. The color and details visible in a front-lit image allows us to narrow down the material to more than just "metal"; we can (hopefully) tell the difference between wrought iron, steel, or something even more exotic like titanium or alpacca. — Chris Woodrich (talk) 23:59, 12 August 2015 (UTC)
 * Just to clarify, colour is the perception our brain gives to a very specific wavelength of light that is emitted from the object. That wavelength is constant in nature, and does not require a human to be there for it to have that wavelength. So colour is not entirely an illusion, but an objective physical property subjectively interpreted. All that to say that colour is important and adds encyclopaedic value. Mattximus (talk) 00:01, 13 August 2015 (UTC)
 * Multinterpretable, even, depending on how the brain is wired. — Chris Woodrich (talk) 00:41, 16 August 2015 (UTC)
 * "The princess and the prince discuss what’s real and what is not." – Bob Dylan. Sca (talk) 21:53, 14 August 2015 (UTC)
 * "I'll be the princess and you be the prince." - Taylor Swif. — Chris Woodrich (talk) 00:41, 16 August 2015 (UTC)


 * Oppose – Low EV. I suggest trying at commons instead. P. S. Burton  (talk)  11:21, 15 August 2015 (UTC)
 * Support – Rainbow unicorn (talk) 15:30, 16 August 2015 (UTC)

--Armbrust The Homunculus 14:11, 19 August 2015 (UTC)