Wikipedia:Featured picture candidates/File:Cornell Baseball2.jpg

Cornell Big Red player

 * Reason:High quality image that displays a whole host of things. This was previously nominated and fell with limited commenting due to EV. However, expanded now to include representation of athletics in the Ivy League and someone added it to History of graphic design to display it's notable creator. This one image simultaneously displays a specific school's athletics, that school's league athletics, that college sport as a whole historically, AND a notable graphical artist. Massive EV on a very high quality restoration.
 * Articles this image appears in:Cornell Big Red, Ivy League, College baseball, History of graphic design
 * Creator:Edward Penfield, restored by Durova


 * Support as nominator --Staxringold talkcontribs 05:16, 5 September 2009 (UTC)
 * Support per nom. Glad to see more uses have been found for this one.  Durova  311 05:17, 5 September 2009 (UTC)
 * Oppose as before. Not really any closer to meeting the EV requirement. From the criteria: "An image has more encyclopedic value if it contributes strongly to a single article, rather than contributes weakly to many." This is a textbook case of contributing weakly to a bunch of articles. Makeemlighter (talk) 07:01, 5 September 2009 (UTC)
 * It's a picture of a Cornell baseball player. How else do you propose displaying Cornell college baseball? Staxringold talkcontribs 07:04, 5 September 2009 (UTC)
 * Despite popular connotations about the phrase "Ivy League", it is actually an athletic conference. Durova  311 13:40, 5 September 2009 (UTC)


 * I'm having trouble with this, because it's not, as Makeemlighter imo correctly points out, encyclopedically valuable in the baseball articles, and we have no article about Edward Penfield, whose notability the inclusion in History of graphic design seems to depend on. I think if Penfield really is notable, then it's an embarrassment that we have so little evidence of it. Could we possibly get more? Just to be clear, I think the inclusion in History of graphic design is of a gallery nature (indeed, the "gallery" plugin was used!) and is therefore not an eligible component of this nomination. Papa Lima Whiskey  (talk) 16:51, 5 September 2009 (UTC)
 * Only mentioned the graphic design article because it was there, someone else added that (that article really is a mess). This image, to me, has massive EV as it simultanously displays 3 things (the school, conference athletics for that school, and the sport). Staxringold talkcontribs 17:15, 5 September 2009 (UTC)
 * Since others have made it clear and there seems to be no remedy to my objections (whatever the reason may be), I'll also:
 * oppose. I don't see what special information this image conveys about any of the things Staxringold refers to (the school, conference athletics for that school, and the sport); also see my comment above and that of Makeemlighter. Papa Lima Whiskey  (talk) 19:25, 6 September 2009 (UTC)

--jjron (talk) 07:59, 12 September 2009 (UTC)
 * Oppose on encyclopaedic value grounds. I think photographs would better describe the topic of all of the articles it is in except for History of graphic design (to which I think it adds little value and its placement is frankly questionable - although it's hard to tell because of the general state of the article) and I don't see the historic value as enough - at least in its current context - to overcome that. Guest9999 (talk) 03:24, 6 September 2009 (UTC)
 * Support for encyclopedic value in Ivy League and Cornell Big Red. Mostlyharmless (talk) 05:40, 6 September 2009 (UTC)
 * (Conditionally Weak) Support: I think it's very encyclopedic, but an electronic crop looks much worse on the bottom than the original inclusion of a small white border. Any chance of including a little border? Shoemaker's Holiday Over 204 FCs served 14:46, 6 September 2009 (UTC)
 * Staxringold pinged me about something requested here, and it turns out the request is a bit different from anticipated. As Shoemaker is aware, rotation and cropping are normally my first actions in restoration.  I crop close when possible because nearly all viewers will see the image in thumbnail; a close crop maximizes the size of the pertinent data.  The actual bottom border on this image is heavily damaged; it required patching at the corners to achieve the current crop.  The figure's feet will not emerge if the image is recropped; cut off ankles are artistic intention.  Basically, Shoemaker's Holiday is asking for the entire image to be downscaled in thumbnail in return for a handful of pixels.  If he wants to offer an alternate crop I'll gladly supply TIFF files, but the rationale behind this request entirely escapes me.  Durova  312 16:26, 6 September 2009 (UTC)
 * Weak Oppose per Papa Lima Whiskey's last comment. -- mcshadypl T C  15:59, 9 September 2009 (UTC)