Wikipedia:Featured picture candidates/File:Corvus coronoides.jpg

Australian Raven

 * Reason:I think the image meets the criteria
 * Articles in which this image appears:Australian Raven
 * Creator:Noodle snacks


 * Support as nominator --Noodle snacks (talk) 10:28, 21 February 2010 (UTC)
 * Support. One of your best bird shots actually, I think. Interesting pose, good detail, aesthetic background and good exposure of the blacks (bit of fill flash I assume?). &#208;iliff    &#171;&#187;  (Talk)  10:42, 21 February 2010 (UTC)
 * EXIF says flash not fired --Muhammad (talk) 16:54, 21 February 2010 (UTC)
 * I've a feeling the flash wasn't quite seated properly - pretty sure I used fill. Noodle snacks (talk) 09:23, 24 February 2010 (UTC)
 * Support. Creepy looking thing. J Milburn (talk) 12:15, 21 February 2010 (UTC)
 * Quoth the raven, "Nevermore".. Edgar Allan Poe thought so too. One of my favourite poets. :-) &#208;iliff    &#171;&#187;  (Talk)  12:29, 21 February 2010 (UTC)
 * Support per Diliff. The composition is awesome. --Muhammad (talk) 16:53, 21 February 2010 (UTC)
 * Question, leaning oppose. What is happening with the feathers of the neck/face? For contrast look at that non-FP quality shot of what the bird looks like normally. The feathers look damaged or dirty (maybe just really wet), and there are lots of feathers missing under the bill and in a small patch at about 7oclock from the eye. The lack of feathers on the throat, and the damaged ones around the neck removes one of the diagnostic clues to separate this species from the Little and Forest Ravens, reducing the EV. The EV could be restored if an explanation for this oddity is explained, as the photo quality is great and the pose is dynamic, but I don't think it is a representative shot f the species. Sabine's Sunbird  talk  21:53, 21 February 2010 (UTC)
 * The bird had recently had a bath, perhaps I should add this to the caption. Noodle snacks (talk) 22:29, 21 February 2010 (UTC)
 * That would explain the state of the feathers, but not the missing feathers. I will hold off on opposing, but I still feel this is not a sufficiently good representation of the species, which is a shame. It's the bird's fault, Noodle, not yours! Sabine's Sunbird  talk  00:33, 22 February 2010 (UTC)
 * I wonder if it is part way between juvenile and adult. Birds in Backyards says that "Young birds resemble the adults, but have dark eyes, shorter throat hackles and often the presence of a pink, fleshy gape". This species is sometimes called a crow". here is an image of a juvenile. The bird was also gaping most of the time in a pose similar to this. Noodle snacks (talk) 03:01, 22 February 2010 (UTC)
 * I'll need to check HBW or maybe HANZAB in the library tomorrow. There seems to be a lot of brown on the bird, which would support the suggestion it is young, but as you note the eye is clearly that of an adult. Sabine's Sunbird  talk  03:14, 22 February 2010 (UTC)
 * Okay, the HBW states that the species has extensive bare areas of grey skin on chin. Clearly this is unusually visible on this photo because the face is wet. (The HBW also confirms this is adult - older juvenile birds have hazel eyes). Thus the state of the birds head is entirely due to it being wet. Sabine's Sunbird  talk  04:41, 22 February 2010 (UTC)
 * Probably a silly question, but could you tell me what HBW and HANZAB stand for? Noodle snacks (talk) 05:58, 22 February 2010 (UTC)
 * Stab in the dark: Handbook of Birds and Wildlife and Handbook of Australian and New Zealand something Birds? &#208;iliff    &#171;&#187;  (Talk)  07:54, 22 February 2010 (UTC)
 * Sorry, Handbook of the Birds of the World and Handbook of Australian, New Zealand and Antarctic Birds. If neither of them don't know it, it probably isn't known. Sabine's Sunbird   talk  09:18, 22 February 2010 (UTC)
 * Support: I'm so taken with those pine needles.  They're gorgeous.  Great composition and quality.  Shame about the wet feathers, but don't ravens usually look a little rough around the edges? :)   Mae din \talk 07:45, 26 February 2010 (UTC)

--Makeemlighter (talk) 11:07, 1 March 2010 (UTC)