Wikipedia:Featured picture candidates/File:Fremantle Prison inmates and main front Iwel.tif

Fremantle Prison 1971
Voting period ends on 22 Jun 2015  at 06:43:27 (UTC)
 * Reason:high quality image with significant encyclopedic value taken in 1971 while the prison(now world heritage listed) was operational as prison
 * Articles in which this image appears:Fremantle Prison
 * FP category for this image:Featured pictures/Places/Architecture
 * Creator:Iwelam


 * Support as nominator – Gnangarra 06:43, 12 June 2015 (UTC)
 * jpeg version supplied preference is for the higher quality TIF file, but also support jpg version as per requests below Gnangarra 06:10, 18 June 2015 (UTC)


 * Support Ticks all the boxes, EV is good... gaz hiley  08:43, 12 June 2015 (UTC)
 * It might be my screen, but I can't see a massive difference, so I'm happy for my support to go to both/either... gaz hiley  10:20, 18 June 2015 (UTC)


 * Comment - Owing to downsampling issues (and bandwidth, possibly), I'd expect the image to be JPG for use in article. — Chris Woodrich (talk) 23:59, 12 June 2015 (UTC)
 * can you please explain what downsampling and bandwidth issues, this is a scanned file not a digital photograph scanning is typically done as tif as its a lossless format unlike jpg. Gnangarra 07:42, 15 June 2015 (UTC)
 * I know perfectly well how scans are usually done. The problem is with the Wiki software itself. JPGs get extra sharpening when they are downsampled for articles/commons, whereas (last I checked) PNG and TIF do not (see Commons:File types). The file size also affects, to the best of my knowledge, the bandwidth necessary to download a page. I may be mistaken on this; if Adam or someone else who is more up to date than me could confirm, that would be great. — Chris Woodrich (talk) 08:31, 15 June 2015 (UTC)
 * the image is clear here, on the article page and one the commons page, I do note that the file has been adjusted on commons 3 times since upload to fix a tif issue given that if it was an issue someone would have made a jpg image, but we should still be presenting the best image format as the FP not a lossy format converted from it..... Gnangarra 09:26, 15 June 2015 (UTC)
 * I think it's a very bad idea to assume that someone would fix such an issue; not everyone thinks of everything. As for TIFF, the page I linked above states explicitly "[TIFF is] an archival format, and should never be used for images intended to be displayed." Help:Files also lists it as supported, but doesn't include it in a list of recommended types. I'm not saying that we shouldn't have a TIFF copy; far from it. I'm just saying that, for article use, we should have JPG; this is supported by documentation on Commons and the English Wikipedia. Sadly, as such I must oppose for now. The technical quality is acceptable for me, but the format is an issue, particularly for users opening articles on low bandwidths (From Commons: "thumbnails are generated in the same format as the original image and are always in 24-bit color ... This means that scaling PNG images produces fairly large files even if the original image contained a palette, or was in grayscale format"; this presumably applies to TIFF as well) — Chris Woodrich (talk) 15:02, 15 June 2015 (UTC)
 * Gnangarra 06:12, 18 June 2015 (UTC)
 * Support - in view of the extreme rarity of inside photos while it was still operating, very strong support for the actual usage, rather than any technical issues which seem irrelevent in that context.JarrahTree 09:14, 15 June 2015 (UTC)
 * Oppose a TIFF format. The JPEG version should be nominated instead. Yann (talk) 08:41, 17 June 2015 (UTC)
 * Gnangarra 06:12, 18 June 2015 (UTC)
 * Support the JPEG version. Yann (talk) 19:09, 19 June 2015 (UTC)
 * Support JPG version only; very technically well done. Any restoration work (not that much is necessary) can be done using the archival TIF. — Chris Woodrich (talk) 06:23, 18 June 2015 (UTC)
 * Support JPEG Adam Cuerden (talk) 23:21, 19 June 2015 (UTC)

--Armbrust The Homunculus 11:46, 22 June 2015 (UTC)
 * Only the jpeg version has enough support for promotion. Armbrust The Homunculus 11:46, 22 June 2015 (UTC)