Wikipedia:Featured picture candidates/File:Su-35MAKS.jpg

A Sukhoi Su-35BM in flight during the MAKS Airshow 2009 near Moscow, Russia on Zhukovskiy LII air field.

 * Reason:This image is the only close-up shot of a Russian SU-35BM in flight. The image is of outstanding quality and is used in the article Sukhoi Su-35BM and in articles in other wikimedia projects.
 * Articles this image appears in:Sukhoi Su-35BM
 * Creator:MastermindPrime


 * Support as nominator --High Contrast (talk) 10:40, 21 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Weak Oppose When you zoom it, it loses its crispness quickly. I also want to know how the permission works for this. It's an awfully close, staged looking picture for own work for an unknown submitter to have access to.  Nezzadar   ☎   13:58, 21 October 2009 (UTC)
 * I doubt there is a problem with the licence. With a zoom lens and 300mm or more, you should be able to capture something like this at an airshow, and this picture is possibly cropped.  Just doing a quick search, this website has information on photography at airshows, and we have dozens and dozens of pictures of aircraft in flight.  I don't find the picture unsharp, but if most of your weak oppose is based on possible permission issues, you might wish to reconsider.   Mae din \talk 16:25, 21 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Having said that, it has just been nominated for deletion at Commons, but I wouldn't say it's conclusive.  Mae din \talk 16:50, 21 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Judging by the cloud cover BELOW the craft, this image was not shot from the ground, ergo the likelihood of Self credits is very remote. Also if you note, the pilot is LOOKING at the photographer, so it makes the likelihood of a staged shot even higher from a plane flying next to it. — raeky ( talk 17:02, 21 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Good point. I bow to your superior skills of observation, :-)   Mae din \talk 17:06, 21 October 2009 (UTC)
 * I noticed the pilot staring at the lens, but as for the cloud cover, I though it was the smoke streams from other jets flying in formation, not clouds. Either way, not easy to get from the ground. Also, there are only two ways to get that angle of the jet. One is to shoot it from above and the other is to shoot an image of the plane from the ground while it is upside down, then reverse it.  Nezzadar   ☎   18:10, 21 October 2009 (UTC)
 * How do you figure that? As long as the shot is into the sky it could look like that, and the jet could be oriented in any way relative to the photographer. Flying Freddy (talk) 05:50, 22 October 2009 (UTC)

Suspended pending result of commons deletion request. Makeemlighter (talk) 11:42, 23 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Comment. The picture's nice, but this is looking like it's going to be deleted. Perhaps suspend the FPC until after the Commons DR has closed? J Milburn (talk) 18:34, 21 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Comment Second the suspend, there is an attempt to get OTRS for the image, it comes from the manufacture of the plane's website and the wording for their site seems to indicate the possibility of freely licensed images, but clarification and explicit license is needed, thus the OTRS. — raeky ( talk 04:55, 23 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Question How long are we going to wait. It's been about a week with no movement on the commons front. Nezzadar   [SPEAK]  02:04, 30 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Generally when it's up for deletion we wait for the outcome of the deletion. — raeky ( talk 03:46, 30 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Commons is notoriously slow when it comes to deletion - unclosed VFDs and no license/source images hang around for months. Be patient (stares at Durova). MER-C 07:56, 10 November 2009 (UTC)
 * The person trying to get OTRS says he still hasn't got a response and has asked for it to be deleted if they haven't e-mailed the OTRS e-mail by now. So I assume that OTRS isn't going to happen. — raeky ( talk 08:13, 10 November 2009 (UTC)

'''Image no longer exists. Speedy Close.''' -- Nezzadar   [SPEAK]  15:44, 10 November 2009 (UTC)