Wikipedia:Featured picture candidates/File:White-winged Chough nov07.jpg

White-winged Chough

 * Reason:High quality image of this bird clearing showing it's characteristic blood red eye.
 * Articles this image appears in:White-winged Chough
 * Creator:Fir0002


 * Support as nominator --Fir0002 07:00, 14 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Support A little distracting of a background - Perched upon a bust of Pallas just above my chamber door would be more appropriate - but I love the eye, and - admittedly, I'm not good at evaluating photographs - but I think it's high-quality and well-done, though a little soft at full zoom, as photos often are. It's within the size guidelines. Shoemaker&#39;s Holiday (talk) 18:22, 14 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Oppose The red eye kind of remind me of the Tasmanian Native-hen. I think it is a bit soft. The shadows aren't clipped, but it seems like it would benefit a lot from (more?) fill flash to bring out the shadow details. I generally find that fill improves birds under high contrast lighting dramatically. You would probably need a Fresnel extender (better beamer or DIY for $5) however. Noodle snacks (talk) 03:10, 15 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Fill can be quite useful (and yes this has some fill flash) but can easily create unsightly shadows from twigs (in this case the branch) and the bird itself so IMO it's best to rely mainly on natural light. But I have been thinking of getting a better beamer and seeing how well they work... As for sharpness I think it's pretty good - maybe not my sharpest but IMO up to standard and at least as sharp as the silvereye FP you mentioned in the ruffed grouse nom --Fir0002 05:04, 15 December 2008 (UTC)
 * The sharpness isn't a huge issue in my book. If the fill is set with the FEC to -1 to -2 EV then the unsightly shadows aren't a huge problem. I think all of my bird photos post about silvereye use it to some degree as there rarely isn't an improvement. I get 2-3 stops more effective power out of my better beamer rip off, definitely recommended. Noodle snacks (talk) 05:30, 15 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Hang on, but aren't you opposing because of sharpness concerns? Fair enough about the better beamer - and I think Mdf would also recommend it too - so I'll probably get/build one over these holidays --Fir0002 08:25, 15 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Neutral original, Weak Support Edit 1 The shadows bother me in the original but not enough to oppose it. I think I like the edit better, but I could really go either way. I'm only weak in my support because I'd like to see more of the white wings which give the bird its name. An in-flight picture would be needed to capture that, but we'd probably then lose the great look at the eye. Makeemlighter (talk) 01:40, 16 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Oppose all. The contrast with the background is just not there, even after lifting the shadows. Unlucky composition - any alternatives? Papa Lima Whiskey  (talk) 23:27, 20 December 2008 (UTC)

--Noodle snacks (talk) 09:00, 22 December 2008 (UTC)