Wikipedia:Featured picture candidates/Horseshoe Canyon panel

Horseshoe Canyon panel
Voting period ends on 16 Jul 2015  at 21:12:02 (UTC)


 * Reason:The image is of a high technical quality, resolution, and EV. This is the first upload of an image of this specific panel ever added to Commons or Wikipedia.
 * Articles in which this image appears:Horseshoe Canyon (Utah) and Mesa Verde National Park
 * FP category for this image:Featured pictures/Culture, entertainment, and lifestyle/Culture and lifestyle
 * Creator:RO


 * Support as nominator – RO (talk)  21:12, 6 July 2015 (UTC)
 * Oppose and speedy close - Below the minimum resolution of 1500 px * 1500 px. And not just a little below it. The height is only 688 px. — Chris Woodrich (talk) 23:34, 6 July 2015 (UTC)
 * Why not give me five minutes to upload one that meets the minimum? RO (talk)  23:44, 6 July 2015 (UTC)
 * If you've got one, go ahead instead. Mind, the warping of the edges is visible even at the small size. Seriously, what equipment are you using?
 * Of course, taking five minutes to read the criteria would have saved us all some time. — Chris Woodrich (talk) 23:51, 6 July 2015 (UTC)
 * Sorry. Rookie mistake. RO (talk)  00:04, 7 July 2015 (UTC)
 * I'm sure my camera isn't good enough, but I drove 47 miles of dirt road and hiked 7 strenuous miles over the course of 6 hours in 100 degree heat to get this shot. Sorry I uploaded a version that was technically too small, but can you please cut me some slack here? RO (talk)  00:14, 7 July 2015 (UTC)


 * (ec) Thanks. I still have to oppose, though, as the blotchy effect from the high ISO level doesn't work. The distortion is still there, but not as bad as I thought it would be. — Chris Woodrich (talk) 00:15, 7 July 2015 (UTC)
 * It's really hard to troubleshoot technical issues if we don't know the equipment. Just like a Mac will have different trouble-shooting steps than a computer running Windows 8 (*shudder*), a Canon DSLR and a Nikon point and shoot will have their own approaches to solving issues. I really want to get behind a picture, but the technical quality isn't there. Camera phones and point and shoots will have a hard time at FPC even in the best of conditions, and the inside of a cave is not "the best of conditions".
 * At the very least I'd have brought a tripod, to be able to shoot with a low ISO even in dark areas. Assuming, of course, that was allowed.
 * Since I agree this shot is very rare and difficult to get, perhaps you'd be interested in submitting the original crop at commons:Commons:Valued images; they judge at web resolution, so those technical issues I pointed out shouldn't be a problem. — Chris Woodrich (talk) 00:20, 7 July 2015 (UTC)
 * Nah, just close it. I have pictures of the other two panels, but I won't bother donating them here. RO (talk)  00:27, 7 July 2015 (UTC)
 * Well, if you'd rather do that then get input to help you improve your photography, so be it. — Chris Woodrich (talk) 00:43, 7 July 2015 (UTC)
 * But your advice is to buy a more expensive camera. So that's not really "input to help you improve your photography", because I already knew my camera was not professional quality. I thought EV held more weight than technical capability. I was obviously wrong about that. Sorry I wasted your time. RO (talk)  00:48, 7 July 2015 (UTC)
 * I said point and shoots have trouble (and yes, they do). I didn't say they didn't pass, ever. There are ways to improve the results. Tripod for stability and low ISO (i.e. less blotchy noise). Minimizing distortion by backing the camera up, making use of the sharpest part of the frame (i.e. the center 60% or 70%), then cropping out the undesired bits. There are ways of making it work (i.e. this and this and this). It's just hard. — Chris Woodrich (talk) 01:06, 7 July 2015 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the advice. RO (talk)  01:15, 7 July 2015 (UTC)

-- — Chris Woodrich (talk) 00:44, 7 July 2015 (UTC)
 * Withdrawn — Chris Woodrich (talk) 00:44, 7 July 2015 (UTC)