Wikipedia:Featured picture candidates/Jewish badge

Jewish badge

 * Reason: Historical value, plus it has no major technical flaws
 * Articles this image appears in: Star of David, Yellow badge
 * Creator: Daniel Ullrich


 * Support as nominator &mdash; HadzTalk 18:11, 6 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Oppose The photograph is noisy and blurred a full size (probably having something to do with an unsteady hand an the 1/8 second exposure). Furthermore, the muddy backgroud is not ideal. A much better photograph could easily be taken under better circumstances. Thegreenj 18:30, 6 April 2007 (UTC)
 * The pin is holding it in place, and your notion that more pictures could be taken is laughable. Lets say that you had to wear a badge like that. If, on the very slight chance you survived, wouldn't you want to throw it away? Also when people were forced into internment camps, they had to wear a uniform, not a yellow badge, thus very few of them survived; hence, why it is a museum piece. --HadzTalk 18:52, 6 April 2007 (UTC)
 * I had not meant an entirely different badge. Since this example is on display at a museum, a better photograph could be taken, or, better yet, someone with access to the badge could place it under better conditions for a photograph to be taken. Not that any that matters. The picture is of very poor quality. Just because it is a photograph of something rare does not make it featured. The poor quality is compounded by the fact that this example does survive, no matter how many may not, as you suggested, and as such a better photograph may be taken. That said, my oppose stands. Thegreenj 01:31, 7 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Comments 1. It's a duplicate of Image:Judenstern JMW.jpg, which is actually in the articles, 3. There's a pin visible at the top and it doesn't stand out from its background, and 4. It's not that high quality for a non-moving, replicable object. ~ trialsanderrors 18:31, 6 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Yes that images was on the commons, I transferred it to Wikipedia and gave it a more relevant name. It is an original, hence why it is accepted into a museum. Well how else would you hold it down? If you can suggest alternative ways of taking a shot they would be much appreciated. Replicable? Fewer of these survived than you think.--HadzTalk 18:52, 6 April 2007 (UTC)
 * I NCT-tagged this version and moved the Commons one into the nomination here. We don't replicate Commons images on en.wiki just because they have a German file name (which is perfectly proper btw, Judenstern means Jewish star). It's replicable of course because it's still in the museum. ~ trialsanderrors 19:20, 6 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Oppose, I generally agree with Thegreenj. Technical details could be fixed, but I'm not sure I'd ever support a version of this with the museum backing.  If it is the case that this is so rare that we could never get it under better conditions then it is possible it just shouldn't be featured.  But I am not sure that it's the case... it may take a long time to get a featurable picture for this subject but I think there might be one (and maybe it's not a closeup, it's a photograph with some people wearing it.) gren グレン 04:56, 7 April 2007 (UTC)
 * I don't think they are rare at all. There is a different version on eBay going for 20 dollars (although I'm pretty sure this is against policy to sell this on eBay). ~ trialsanderrors 07:52, 7 April 2007 (UTC)
 * You can by anything from ebay, my relatives may have one, I'm Jewish. I've just never asked because its a sore topic.
 * Yeah, it's probably banned due to being a form of offensive Nazi paraphernalia. Or as part of used clothing. That seller is dealing in some shady business. ;)  Jumping cheese   Cont @ct 09:54, 7 April 2007 (UTC)
 * That seller might be selling fake stuff.   Jumping cheese   Cont @ct 10:03, 7 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Oppose: Per Theegreenj (looks unprofessional).  ~   St ep  tr ip   15:24, 7 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Bit like the entire nazi regime itself then? --HadzTalk 22:13, 7 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Oppose: Per Theegreenj. 8thstar 22:20, 7 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Oppose per Theegreen Witty lama 06:36, 10 April 2007 (UTC)

MER-C 08:08, 13 April 2007 (UTC)