Wikipedia:Featured picture candidates/Julia Shaw

Julia Shaw
Voting period ends on 24 Nov 2018  at 10:54:22 (UTC)


 * Reason:This crop of File:Julia Shaw 2018-03-10.jpg is the lead image in the article Julia Shaw (psychologist). The original image has been released through the OTRS and is of a high quality, so I believe this meets the FP criteria.
 * Articles in which this image appears:Julia Shaw (psychologist)
 * FP category for this image:People/Science and engineering
 * Creator:Boris Breuer; cropped by Kmhkmh


 * Support as nominator – A Thousand Doors (talk &#124; contribs) 10:54, 14 November 2018 (UTC)
 * Comment The crop is uneven, her right shoulder is chopped off. Brandmeistertalk  11:48, 14 November 2018 (UTC)
 * Perhaps a more even crop could be extracted from the original image (I wouldn't really know how to do that well enough). A Thousand Doors (talk &#124; contribs) 12:45, 14 November 2018 (UTC)
 * Personally I prefer a cropped version including the completely hair, but tastes differ. I can create another crop including both shoulders, if that is of any concern. My goal is/was simply to provide a better thumbbnail of her face (in the associated articles I created). The crop is basically just a cut & paste job with Gimp. I have no real opinion on the nomination. Personally if anything I'd rather nominate the original rather than this crop or similar derivatives. But i'm not familiar with the nomination criteria or goals.--Kmhkmh (talk) 16:40, 14 November 2018 (UTC)
 * I added the original. It will be considered alongside the crop. That said, I agree with Brandmeister's point. MER-C 20:12, 14 November 2018 (UTC)


 * I added Alternate 2a, a temporary crop (CSS image crop). If it gets enough support then a permanent crop can be uploaded by the nominator or Kmhkmh. Support Alternate 2a or other similar crops. Bammesk (talk) 02:32, 15 November 2018 (UTC)
 * That's fine as crop for commons, for the wikipedia articles however I prefer picture that focuses more on the face, which is more common/useful for biographic article imho. So in this case only the torso above her hands.--Kmhkmh (talk) 05:17, 15 November 2018 (UTC)
 * I edited the CSS crop to that extent. Revert if undesired. MER-C 10:19, 15 November 2018 (UTC)
 * I didn't see that in time, meanwhile I've aleady replaced the pictures in the articles by another crop more or less the same as yours.--Kmhkmh (talk) 15:44, 15 November 2018 (UTC)


 * Support alternative 2 (File:Julia Shaw 2018-03-10 cropped.jpg). MER-C 16:28, 15 November 2018 (UTC)
 * I also support alternative 2a. MER-C 16:27, 22 November 2018 (UTC)
 * Support alternative 2, but would also support the rest of the body. Brandmeistertalk  10:11, 16 November 2018 (UTC)
 * Am I the only one who would support the original image if the right half was cropped only? Mattximus (talk) 14:57, 17 November 2018 (UTC)
 * No you are not, that's what I proposed in this diff as Alternate 2, now labeled Alternate 2a. That's my preference. I have a hard time supporting the recent crops, they are too tight and look like a passport photo. Biography infoboxes can and do have full body and half body photos. Bammesk (talk) 15:51, 17 November 2018 (UTC)
 * You lost me there. The criticism above concerns Alternative 2, if I understand that correctly and the recent crops are pretty much identical to alternative 2.--Kmhkmh (talk) 13:35, 18 November 2018 (UTC)
 * I re-added the original Alternative 2, per this diff, now labeled Alternative 2a. And updated my posts above accordingly. Bammesk (talk) 15:08, 18 November 2018 (UTC)
 * I really disagree on that one. Headshots are a better choice as a first the first picture in a biographic article or for its infobox as it is all about visual recognition, which clearly gets impaired with half or full body pictures in thumbnail size. The latter are better suited as a second picture later on in the article. The fact that many articles may not use a headshot or something close to a it (yet) is imho simply due to the fact that at the time no better image was available (and the author may not have known hot to creae a crop or the quality of the image was insifficient for a decent crop).
 * In any case I don't care much in term of the nomination, but I really object to switching the image in the articles on Julia Shaw to a full torso picture in thumbnail size.--Kmhkmh (talk) 13:30, 18 November 2018 (UTC)

--Armbrust The Homunculus 21:03, 24 November 2018 (UTC)
 * None of the images has enough support for promotion. Armbrust The Homunculus 21:03, 24 November 2018 (UTC)