Wikipedia:Featured picture candidates/Kamianets-Podilskyi map

1691 map of Kamianets-Podilskyi

 * Reason:A High-resolution historic map done by famous French cartographer Nicolas de Fer.
 * Proposed caption:A 1691 French map of Kamianets-Podilskyi, depicting the city's old town neighborhood and castle, surrounded by the winding Smotrych River.
 * Articles this image appears in:Kamianets-Podilskyi
 * Creator:Nicolas de Fer


 * Support as nominator —dima/talk/ 20:54, 25 October 2007 (UTC)
 * Suggestion - Maybe someone could present a translation to the text in the map? Would help with the understanding by some, such as myself, who either know nothing or very little of french. --84.90.46.116 20:59, 25 October 2007 (UTC)
 * I too do not know anything in French.. There is however a site which translates the map.. perhaps I can incorporate the translation into the image description page. —dima/talk/ 21:02, 25 October 2007 (UTC)
 * Excellent find there, don't see any reason why you shouldn't include it in the image page. Well done. --84.90.46.116 21:30, 25 October 2007 (UTC)
 * It would be best to do it from scratch; translations can be copyrighted if they have creative content. Chick Bowen 18:55, 27 October 2007 (UTC)
 * I have provided a translation of the two left and right portions of the map with the help of Google translate and some portions of the website's translation... hopefully its good. —dima/talk/ 20:04, 27 October 2007 (UTC)
 * I asked a friend with some french understanding to verify, and he says it's pretty accurate - still, if someone with a complete understanding could verify it'd be better xD --84.90.46.116 14:11, 29 October 2007 (UTC)
 * Support - high res and rare picture.--Riurik(discuss) 20:15, 26 October 2007 (UTC)
 * Support nice, good, rare pic --Boguslav 23:01, 26 October 2007 (UTC)
 * Support. Nice scan of an encyclopedic image. Nautica Shad e  s  16:11, 28 October 2007 (UTC)
 * Support. Interesting, high res, rare and support per above reasons. —  j acĸrм  ( talk ) 08:47, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
 * Oppose. I like old maps, and kind of like this at full size, and would probably support if it was on French Wikipedia. But since we don't seem to have a definite translation, that to me lowers its value. Also I feel that if we're making exceptions for foreign languages, there should be a reason - so a map of a city in the Ukraine with writing in Ukrainian may make more sense than a Ukrainian city with a French map. Now perhaps if the city was ruled by the French at this time we would also consider that a reason, but according to the article in 1691 it was under Turkish rule, and Polish rule soon after - so why French? OK, some other reasons; every time I look at this in thumbnail I think it's a diagram of a cell or some type of cell structure, and as far as it's use in the article, it really looks like it's just been jammed in there, it just doesn't look comfortable. --jjron 08:56, 30 October 2007 (UTC)

MER-C 07:09, 2 November 2007 (UTC)