Wikipedia:Featured picture candidates/Kanye West

Kanye West
Voting period ends on 28 Aug 2010 at 02:00:28 (UTC)
 * Reason:Since you can see every pimple and strand of hair pretty well, I am satisfied with its level of detail. I think this is a high EV image in its main use and captures hime without some of the fancier glasses that he wears on his face.
 * Articles in which this image appears:Kanye West
 * FP category for this image:Featured pictures/People/Entertainment
 * Creator:User:David Shankbone


 * Support as nominator --TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 02:00, 19 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Oppose (because “F**k no” seems doesn’t seem right). Reasons: 1) We want our I.P.s to be sufficiently interested in the subject matter to click the article. Or we want the picture to be so stunning and eye-catching that they want to click the picture. 1a) As to the subject matter: Just pardon me all over the place, but this is a rapper.(Disclaimer) There’s nothing wrong with that. But Wikipedia is an encyclopedia and there are many other articles that have more of that “encyclopedic feel” and less of that People magazine or MTV-feel to the subject matter. 1b) As to the eye-catching quality of the image: The lighting here was an on-camera strobe, which is certainly not what would be considered fine, exemplary photography; not by a long shot is this exemplary, eye-catching, fine photography. 2) You did it again. The guy’s “origin” is Chicago. (*sigh*) This is looking to be another one of your Chicago-themed “Bubba” recreations from “Forrest Gump”: “Anyway, like I was sayin', shrimp is the fruit of the sea. You can barbecue it, boil it, broil it, bake it, saute it. Dey's uh, shrimp-kabobs, shrimp creole, shrimp gumbo. Pan fried, deep fried, stir-fried. There's pineapple shrimp, lemon shrimp, coconut shrimp, pepper shrimp, shrimp soup, shrimp stew, shrimp salad, shrimp and potatoes, shrimp burger, shrimp sandwich. That- that's about it.” All we’re getting from you is “Chicago-kabobs, Chicago creole, Chicago gumbo, and Chicago sandwiches. Oh… and Chicago rappers. (*thoughtful pause*) That- that's about it.” And no, I won’t argue with you or anyone about this. I stated my reasoning. The only proper remedy is to counter my vote with 2+ “support” votes. Greg L (talk) 02:39, 19 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Actually, your vote can be ignored if it fails to address the criteria. Makeemlighter (talk) 03:00, 19 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Which, 90% of it does not, FYI.  Jujutacular  talk 03:06, 19 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Are you saying my reasoning doesn’t address the criteria? Or are you just trying to make a point for no particular reason than to sound tough? I don’t think it’s a fine-quality photo. So shoot me. Go complain to someone who cares. I don’t think it’s an interesting subject. So shoot me. A lot of us are sick of all his Chicago nominations  (there are other places on this planet). That’s not in the *official* criteria but WP:Common sense and WP:NOT A BUREAUCRACY clearly apply in a case where we have one cyber squatter inundating the FP queue with Chicago. But that “Chicago-saturation” issue is just icing on the cake to the other reasoning that speaks straight to the heart of valid reasons to oppose. If either of you two are arguing that we want even more Chicago-related photography, I have news for you: you need to wake up and smell the coffee because a bunch of are sick of it. If you think this is fine photograph and/or fascinating subject matter that will appeal to a nice wide segment of our readership, I’ll allow you to vote “support” (even though doing so would, IMO, being ignoring the criteria so we could ignore your vote). Adios. Greg L (talk) 03:18, 19 August 2010 (UTC)
 * A) While the 'too many Chicago pics' argument has some merit, it is particularly weak here given that he is very widely known outside of Chicago and the public association is not that strong. B) The fact that he is a rapper has absolutely no bearing on the eligibility of a portrait of him. Please recognize the difference between the spectrum of your interests and the spectrum of Wikipedia. C) I actually was about to oppose the nomination, and had some comments about the technical details when I edited-conflicted with you. I was a bit dismayed at your comments, to say the least. But no, I won't be supporting.  Jujutacular  talk 03:30, 19 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Oppose per Greg. --Extra  9 9 9  (Contact me  +  contribs) 10:59, 19 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Oppose. As you know, I don't buy many of Greg's arguments. However, this is not an FP-worthy portrait. The focus and lighting aren't perfect, the cut-off sunglasses are a little distracting, and so on and so forth. J Milburn (talk) 11:00, 19 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Oppose Per J Milburn, technicals are very poor. I'm also looking at it wondering why his head hasn't fallen off his shoulders he's leaning that much! JFitch   (talk)  11:05, 19 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Oppose per J Milburn, although I am one of the people who would appreciate something other than Chicago pictures... I do also agree with Jujutacular that this isn't exactly a representative of Chicago - he is too global for people to look at him and think "Chicago"... gaz hiley  12:09, 19 August 2010 (UTC)

--Makeemlighter (talk) 02:06, 28 August 2010 (UTC)