Wikipedia:Featured picture candidates/Kim Il-sung Propaganda Painting

Kim Il-Sung Propaganda Painting
Voting period ends on 30 Jun 2012 at 03:02:16 (UTC)
 * Reason:Certainly a, uh, diverse image, one that displays an inside look of the world's most isolated country.
 * Articles in which this image appears:North Korea, Kim Il-sung
 * FP category for this image:North Korea
 * Creator:yeowatzup


 * Support as nominator --Oakley77 (talk) 03:02, 21 June 2012 (UTC)
 * Comment As stated on the image information page: "Warning: The subject of this image is believed to be protected by copyright." Does that make this a fair-use image? If so, it would be ineligible for FP. - Running On Brains (talk) 22:42, 21 June 2012 (UTC)
 * To follow up, the copyright disclaimer on the image page I believe refers to usage off Wikipedia, any usage within the WikiMedia project is okay. Also, if it doesn't, how do you look up North Korean copyright laws, it is impossible. Oakley77 (talk) 22:52, 21 June 2012 (UTC)
 * What kind of a comment is "how do you look up North Korean copyright laws, it is impossible"? You find out their copyright law exactly the same way you'd find out the copyright law of any country; by looking up the legislation on their website. In this case, the relevant part is Article 32 ("도서관, 문헌고, 박물관, 기념관 같은 곳에서 저작물을 보존, 진열, 열람, 대출용으로 복제할 경우" - "A copyrighted work may be used without the permission of the copyright owner … When a copyrighted work in a public place is copied"). The issue here isn't freedom of panorama, it's derivative work—that is, although we have the consent of the photographer who photographed the mural, we don't have the consent of the artist who painted the mural. Mogism (talk) 12:28, 22 June 2012 (UTC)
 * To my mind, the fair-use question is moot, since this is a scratchy and poor-quality image of dubious EV. Oppose. Mogism (talk) 12:28, 22 June 2012 (UTC)
 * Response - When a painting is painted in the side of a wall, it sends to be scratchy (I believe it is). Also, its importance and cultural value is great enough to undermine the clarity. Oakley77 (talk) 17:48, 22 June 2012 (UTC)
 * Still oppose. I don't know where you're getting "importance and cultural value" from; this is a generic reproduction of Kim's official portrait set against an absolutely standard "smiling workers" background, of the type one can see thousands of in any dictatorship. I genuinely can see no EV to this. Mogism (talk) 19:00, 22 June 2012 (UTC)
 * Oppose This is a poor quality reproduction of the image (aside from quality issues, it also appears to be slightly tilted or off-centre). Nick-D (talk) 11:41, 27 June 2012 (UTC)

--Makeemlighter (talk) 17:21, 30 June 2012 (UTC)