Wikipedia:Featured picture candidates/Lilac-breasted Roller

Lilac-breasted Roller
Voting period ends on 13 Jun 2013 at 03:05:00 (UTC)
 * Reason:High resolution, sharp, better than lead image but wouldn't necessarily fit in the infobox. My first bird nom, so I'm not sure if EV is up to par—for one thing, it says "individual" instead of male or female. It appears to be an adult though.
 * Articles in which this image appears:Lilac-breasted Roller
 * FP category for this image:Featured pictures/Animals/Birds
 * Creator:Sumeetmoghe (commons)


 * Support as nominator --– Kerαu noςco pia ◁ gala xies 03:05, 4 June 2013 (UTC)
 * What's that floating speck on the right? Ought it be cloned out? dllu (t,c) 03:56, 4 June 2013 (UTC)
 * Done. Uploaded over original since it was such a minor edit. There was a second spot on the lower right too. No idea what they were. – Kerαu noςco pia ◁ gala xies 04:33, 4 June 2013 (UTC)


 * Grudging support. Hate FP bird pics, but this is one of the nicer ones.TCO (talk) 05:19, 4 June 2013 (UTC)
 * alt preferredTCO (talk) 22:37, 5 June 2013 (UTC)
 * Grudging oppose Back of the body sinks into shadow, and severe oversharpening is evident on the head. Samsara (FA • FP) 07:36, 4 June 2013 (UTC)
 * Oppose original in part per Samsara; I don't like the trash on the branch, either. I think the infobox image is a superior illustration of the bird as it shows the feet and the tail more clearly; it's somewhat soft, however (I suppose one could make an argument for downsampling making it of comparative quality to the rest of the gallery?) Cowtowner (talk) 12:59, 4 June 2013 (UTC)
 * Comment I would like the file description to say what kind of thorntree plant the bird is sitting in.TCO (talk) 17:12, 4 June 2013 (UTC)
 * I'm actually going to add the lead image as an alt, but I need to fix it up first. I believe that I agree with Cowtowner that the EV of the lead image is superior. We'll see! – Kerαu noςco pia ◁ gala xies 17:17, 4 June 2013 (UTC)
 * Support Alt (vote pending) Thanks for the feedback. I added an alt image, which is the lead image in the Lilac-breasted Roller article (the nominated version is being used in the article now). See caption or image description for work done, but mainly the image needed to be sharpened. Same mysterious spots as on the other image, maybe bugs flying around? – Kerαu noςco pia ◁ gala xies 18:12, 5 June 2013 (UTC)
 * Support alt certainly a member of the national bird team of the Earth. Brandmeistertalk  22:14, 5 June 2013 (UTC)
 * Support alt, prefer the second alt (less colour noise, Alt 1 seems slightly over-sharpened) Cowtowner (talk) 04:36, 6 June 2013 (UTC)
 * I agree, mine may be slightly over-sharpened (first time working with birds). But what's your opinion on the eye? I asked Biopics below to sharpen anyway. Other FP bird pics seem to have fairly defined eyes. – Kerαu noςco pia ◁ gala xies 20:46, 6 June 2013 (UTC)
 * I think the eye is in line with the rest of the image. Cowtowner (talk) 21:18, 6 June 2013 (UTC)
 * Comment I added another alt where I reworked the image from scratch. Biopics (talk) 09:18, 6 June 2013 (UTC)
 * Hey Biopics, my support will go to yours after a bit more tweaking. Your image looks like a RAW file before it's been sharpened. Can you sharpen the body a little (not much) and the area around the eye a little bit more? I only noticed that my image got darker after I'd uploaded it and put it here, and that wasn't my intention at all... I must have slipped on a curves layer. Usually I compare my final with original for that exact reason and I let my confidence that no overall changes had been made. I was going to repair it today and saw you uploaded your alt. – Kerαu noςco pia ◁ gala xies 16:59, 6 June 2013 (UTC)


 * Support alt Tomer T (talk) 08:38, 11 June 2013 (UTC)
 * Comment This is coming up to closing, and by my count there are 4 explicit supports, with K having struck his and Biopics having added an alt without stating a vote. This should probably get clarified; it would be a bit of a shame to see this not pass for reasons of ambiguity at this point. Cowtowner (talk) 16:34, 12 June 2013 (UTC)
 * I would support a slightly sharpened version of Alt 2—every FP of a bird I've seen has been pretty sharp, this still seems soft. As for my edit, I have now tried two times, including re-downloading the original image and redoing the sharpening, and both times the image appears slightly darker after uploading to Commons—there's no luminosity change that I can see in Photoshop, but it appears on three different browsers, so I can't in good conscience vote on my original Alt. I'm pretty frustrated with Photoshop. Unfortunately, I can't vote here. – Kerαu noςco pia ◁ gala xies 17:25, 12 June 2013 (UTC)
 * Fair enough, I suppose. I'd point out that this is somewhat larger than most of our bird FPs and that if it were downsampled and resharpened, could probably made to look as sharp as them (I wouldn't go down that road though as some detail is inevitably lost). Cowtowner (talk) 17:42, 12 June 2013 (UTC)

--Armbrust The Homunculus 03:05, 13 June 2013 (UTC)
 * Not enough support for promotion. Armbrust The Homunculus 03:05, 13 June 2013 (UTC)