Wikipedia:Featured picture candidates/Male European bison

Male European bison
Voting period ends on 17 Jun 2023  at 13:47:00 (UTC)
 * Reason:High quality large image of vulnerable species in the wild. FP on Commons
 * Articles in which this image appears:European bison
 * FP category for this image:Featured pictures/Animals/Mammals
 * Creator:Charlesjsharp


 * Support as nominator – Charlesjsharp (talk) 13:47, 7 June 2023 (UTC)
 * Support Adam Cuerden (talk)Has about 8.4% of all FPs. 15:09, 9 June 2023 (UTC)
 * Support. Replaces existing FP File:Bison bonasus (Linnaeus 1758).jpg. MER-C 18:18, 9 June 2023 (UTC)
 * Only major thing better about that one - and Charles' has a lot more going for it - is the old FP shows the feet a bit, which is arguably a plus. Charles' composition is much cleaner; the old FP is very unbalanced and busy. Pose maybe a hair better in the old FP. Think Charles wins here. Adam Cuerden (talk)Has about 8.4% of all FPs. 19:01, 9 June 2023 (UTC)
 * Looks like you voted twice here, Adam. Oops, I confused your comment with MER-C's vote. Sorry about that. Choliamb (talk) 11:37, 11 June 2023 (UTC)
 * Support.-- Vulcan  ❯❯❯  Sphere!  08:13, 10 June 2023 (UTC)
 * Comment – I prefer the existing FP, which MER-C linked above, and which I think has a much stronger sense of place. The image nominated here, with the subject standing in an open, grassy field in perfect light, is a fine photograph, as one expects from Charles; it would be perfect on a cattle breeder's web site, but in my opinion it has less EV than the previous FP, which better reflects the original forest habitat of the European species (in constrast to the plains-dwelling North American species). The previous FP had been stable in the article for more than a decade, and was replaced by this one only a month ago. As a result, the previous FP no longer appears in the article at all. I think that was a ill-advised change and one that should probably be reverted. Choliamb (talk • contribs) 12:33, 11 June 2023 (UTC)
 * I am sure your comments above were made in good faith Choliamb, but let me explain the European bison's habitat. It lives in the forest but has to come out to feed. It is standing in a natural meadow, not a farm field. Charlesjsharp (talk) 21:22, 12 June 2023 (UTC)
 * I certainly didn't mean to imply that you had actually taken the photo on a farm, Charles, only that it was the kind of perfectly lit and posed image that any stockbreeder would love. But I still prefer the previous FP, precisely because of the mud and the mist and the unruly framing, and I think it's a shame that you chose to remove it entirely from the article in favor of your own. Choliamb (talk) 23:26, 12 June 2023 (UTC)
 * Do put it back if you wish. I have a thing against captive animals; their appearance, habitat etc. can be quite different to those of wild animals. A bison in the wild would not be in this sort of muddy spot in March. This animal is in a small bison enclosure in what is effectively a zoo. Not good for the animal at all. Charlesjsharp (talk) 13:26, 13 June 2023 (UTC)


 * Support – Hamid Hassani (talk) 11:12, 12 June 2023 (UTC)
 * Support — FatalFit &#124; &#9993; &#124; ✓ 18:21, 12 June 2023 (UTC)

--Armbrust The Homunculus 18:18, 18 June 2023 (UTC)