Wikipedia:Featured picture candidates/Mammy's Cupboard 2

Mammy's Cupboard 2
Voting period ends on 26 Apr 2014  at 15:33:29 (UTC)
 * Reason:High quality and resolution, notable photographer, freest possible license
 * Articles in which this image appears:Mammy's Cupboard, Mammy archetype
 * FP category for this image:Featured pictures/Places/Architecture
 * Creator:Carol M. Highsmith


 * Support as nominator -- — Crisco 1492 (talk) 15:33, 16 April 2014 (UTC)
 * Support One of the uglier gimmick architectures, but if we have an article on it, and it's a very good depiction of that article's subject - which it is - I think the EV is very high. Adam Cuerden (talk) 01:54, 18 April 2014 (UTC)
 * It is 'very high EV' within a very low EV article about a kitsch-object that wouldn't be notable wasn't it in the US. Its advertising value is surely higher. -- ELEKHHT 23:32, 23 April 2014 (UTC)
 * Considering it was known enough for a notable photographer to document it (that link about, to Highsmith, is not to a user page!), and that it's clearly had discussion in some sources (this apparently has a page or two just about the restaurant, and it's got some mention/discussion in 300 Google Books). If it is encyclopedic enough for an article, it's encyclopedic enough for an FP. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 23:58, 23 April 2014 (UTC)
 * You know that being photographed by a notable photographer does not confer notability, neither being simply mentioned in x books (btw 300 is not impressive given that even Kim Kardashian gets over 13,000 Google Books hits). If it were a similar building in India with all coverage in Hindi print media, Google wouldn't give any results. But that wasn't the point: wasn't contesting en.wiki notability per current standards, only questioning educational value, per common sense. Approaching 5 million articles on this Wiki, is obvious that the differences between their EV is massive. - ELEKHHT 07:20, 24 April 2014 (UTC)
 * I never said it conferred notability. I said that it was notable enough for a photographer who is notable in her own right to want to photograph it. There's a decided difference.
 * If there were a similar building in India, and I spoke Hindi, I'd likely try to write an article before nominating. I've done extensive work in Indonesia-related subjects, including several articles I wrote just to have images used (though only one so far has an image that is FP quality), including the National Press Monument, Kadisoka, and Dharma Wiratama Museum. Admittedly none of these are kitsch, but then kitsch isn't really an Indonesian aesthetic. I've been tempted to write about Indonesian food chains (say Bakmi GM or Waroeng Steak & Shake), but there doesn't seem to be much online, and I don't have ready access to trade magazines. Sourcing is, sadly, one of the major challenges faced by people writing about countries other than the UK and US: little is online, and (in the case of Indonesia, at least) it is common for less to be even written on a subject compared to an equally significant one in a Western country.
 * Ultimately, and back to this image, I fail to see how the widespread "importance" (since notability, as defined by our policies, is a simple binary yes/no system) of a subject should be a qualifier for FPC, and it is quite rightly not part of the criteria. To be honest I've lost count of the minor celebrities who have FPs (say, Robin Hunicke), whilst some more mainstream ones have terrible images (or no image at all), such as Tim Allen, but since these individuals are notable under Wikipedia policy, the encyclopedic value in the article on the subject is generally high, and thus I've not raised much of a ruckus. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 08:11, 24 April 2014 (UTC)
 * ...' Can't possibly be unnotable, just look at it, noticeable. Surely widely known on its premises. Hafspajen (talk) 09:10, 24 April 2014 (UTC)


 * Weak support as before. J Milburn (talk) 15:48, 19 April 2014 (UTC)
 * Support  SagaciousPhil   -  Chat  11:18, 22 April 2014 (UTC)
 * Support -- Godot13 (talk) 00:22, 23 April 2014 (UTC
 * Support  Bellus Delphina     talk   10:43, 24 April 2014 (UTC)

--Armbrust The Homunculus 15:33, 26 April 2014 (UTC)