Wikipedia:Featured picture candidates/Meleager et Atalanta

Meleager et Atalanta
Voting period ends on 27 Aug 2010 at 17:20:45 (UTC)
 * Reason:An excellent scan, from a source that we would be wise to exploit to its fullest. As a bonus, this part of the myth is poorly illustrated by all our other illustrations.
 * Articles in which this image appears:Meleager, Atalanta, Calydonian Boar
 * FP category for this image:Featured_pictures/Culture,_entertainment,_and_lifestyle/Religion and mythology
 * Creator:Giulio Romano and Franc[is?] Loving.


 * Support as nominator --Adam Cuerden (talk) 17:20, 18 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Support more quality etching, and historic artwork has obvious, automatic EV for showing us how people's tastes, artistic inspirations and methods have changed, so it's kind of anthropological IMO, but.. You should mix it up more. Part of the charm in these is their rarity and if this passes at this nomination, like these usually do, we'll have 2 etchings right next to each other, which makes them seem a bit less rare and valuable than they are again IMO. -- I'ḏ ♥  One  04:14, 19 August 2010 (UTC)
 * This sort of thing is what I'm good at restoring (and what I own a lot of). I do try to mix it up with subjects, century, and type; for example, the next one's going to be a watercolour image of Treasure Island, Strike that: the scans were appallingly bad quality. but, while I may do the occasional photo (c.f. Buffalo Bill and Sitting Bull, below), if you're interested in historical works, you're going to have a lot of black and white art, but have almost limitless subject matter within that restriction. Oh, by the way, the photogravures from the first edition of The Magnificent Ambersons are in the queue. Adam Cuerden (talk) 08:57, 19 August 2010 (UTC)
 * IdLoveOne, there is no "automatic EV" for historical artwork, don't be ridiculous. This image can only have EV for what it shows, not for what it is. This is being used as an illustration, not an example. At this point I have no opinion on the EV, but I do know that your reasoning is utterly flawed. J Milburn (talk) 11:03, 19 August 2010 (UTC)
 * No, history is encyclopedic, art is generally a major aspect of human society and civilization, once upon a time this was high art, and now it teaches us about a major development in humanity that ultimately lead to the more complex intelligence we now have. What is considered art now, even if weird or whatever, say, Michael Jackson is to you are both tiny steps in the shaping of mankind, because our species creative ability is unlike any other lifeform we know of - No way that's not of EV. Maybe not all artwork, but general examples of trends, like this is and other things.. -- I'ḏ ♥  One  15:45, 19 August 2010 (UTC)
 * But I can seen EV there, as nothing describes the war more. --Extra  9 9 9  (Contact me  +  contribs) 11:11, 19 August 2010 (UTC)
 * While this is philosophically interesting, it's somewhat off-topic, don't you think? Adam Cuerden (talk) 16:18, 19 August 2010 (UTC)
 * This may be true; however, it's not used in that context now and has no EV on that count. Cowtowner (talk) 20:47, 19 August 2010 (UTC)
 * ??? No, I'm not referring to individual articles, I'm talking about for knowledge's sake itself, and while it wasn't Adam's intention it is still historical, does show a historic style of art and has definite potential EV to topics related to semi-recent artistic history. -- I'ḏ ♥  One  00:21, 20 August 2010 (UTC)
 * I agree with you there. I was simply stating that for voting, we can't claim it has EV if it isn't used in that fashion in the encyclopedia. Cowtowner (talk) 06:05, 20 August 2010 (UTC)
 * I agree strongly with Cowturner. We can't say "support, potentially great EV"- we have to judge the EV in context. J Milburn (talk) 11:52, 20 August 2010 (UTC)


 * Support Great illustration for its current articles. Cowtowner (talk) 20:47, 19 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Support Good needle and yarn. Papa Lima Whiskey  (talk) 10:42, 20 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Comment: Could you possibly identify Meleager and Atalanta in the picture?
 * Fairly easy if you know the myth: Atalanta is on the far left, with the bow. Meleager is just right of her, with the boar spear. Adam Cuerden (talk) 12:33, 20 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Weak support. Not the greatest illustration, but it's still good. Thanks Adam for your clarification above. J Milburn (talk) 20:24, 20 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Support A fine illustration and restoration, nice work.  Jujutacular  talk 16:10, 26 August 2010 (UTC)

--Makeemlighter (talk) 02:09, 28 August 2010 (UTC)