Wikipedia:Featured picture candidates/Nova Scotia Duck Tolling Retriever

Nova Scotia Duck Tolling Retriever
Voting period ends on 11 Aug 2011 at 02:17:40 (UTC)

Note: One of these is a Quality Image on Commons.
 * Reason:Educational/"encyclopedic": an image of an attractive, rare breed of retriever in action -- not a boring snapshot. High quality: most dog action shots are nowhere near this clear and hi-res, and if there are any color balance/other issues (I'm not a photo expert) I could try to correct them using iPhoto or Photoshop. Most, including the one at right, would be more powerful if cropped, and I'm happy to do that as well. I've listed a few alternatives from the same set above, if others prefer those. Another pic from the same set is used in the gallery of the breed's article with a silly caption, but please don't hold that against the photos themselves -- many dog articles are neglected and this stands far apart from all the rest in there (I'll disperse some of the gallery pics as soon as I can).
 * Articles in which this image appears:Nova Scotia Duck Tolling Retriever (another pic from set; can be replaced with whichever is best)
 * FP category for this image:Featured pictures/Animals/Mammals
 * Creator:Kallerna at Commons


 * Support as nominator -- Anna talk 02:17, 2 August 2011 (UTC)
 * Comment: I put up a cropped/slightly sharpened version of the Original to the right, and replaced the thumbnails with cropped and slightly sharpened/contrast-enhanced versions (originals are linked). I'm hoping they look alright. I think Alt 2 looks wonderful cropped, perhaps better than "Original". Anna  talk 05:52, 2 August 2011 (UTC)
 * Question where are any of these photos in the article? I don't see them on the side or in the gallery. The recommendation for Featured Picture candidates is that they've been displayed in an article for a week before they're nominated.  Pine (was GreenPine)  talk 08:52, 2 August 2011 (UTC)
 * Comment. At first glance I was discouraged by the water, but on closer inspection it seems to give good EV given the use of the dog in hunting. I have a strong preference for Alt3 and could possibly support an edited version of it (doesn't need much more than an improved crop - it lacks headroom given the space elsewhere). But for en:FPC it does have to be in the article, and in more than just the gallery, and needs to be likely to stay there. I believe this is the one from the 'set' currently in the gallery (which does have a trite caption, and the dog frankly looks rather demented in as well)? --jjron (talk) 10:46, 2 August 2011 (UTC)
 * Add Alt 3 Edit 1. --jjron (talk) 14:25, 2 August 2011 (UTC)
 * Support Alt 3 Edit 1 per my comments above (as long as it sticks in the article). FWIW I re-edited back off the original, rather than editing the edit shown in the gallery at the top of the nom. Also added it to a more prominent place in the article (adjust as necessary). --jjron (talk) 14:30, 2 August 2011 (UTC)
 * Comment and note to nominator why not use the caption "The Nova Scotia Duck Tolling Retriever was bred to "toll", or lure, ducks into shooting range by causing a disturbance near the shore. After the duck is shot, the dog brings it to the hunter." in the article and in here for Alt 3 Edit 1? I could support Alt 3 Edit 1 if it stays in the article.  Pine (was GreenPine)  talk 21:46, 2 August 2011 (UTC)
 * P.S. This is an FPC that would have been better put Picture Peer Review to deal with this kind of issue before coming to the FPC list, in my opinion, because there are several minor issues that need to be addressed, and having so many versions creates clutter in my opinion. If it doesn't pass on the first round, you might re-nominate the best image with the best caption at some time in the future.  Pine (was GreenPine)  talk 21:46, 2 August 2011 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the advice -- I'll be more discriminating next time -- and sorry for not responding earlier. Thanks to jjron as well -- lovely edit. Anna (talk) 04:58, 11 August 2011 (UTC)
 * Support Alt 3 Edit 1 JJ Harrison (talk) 07:49, 3 August 2011 (UTC)
 * Support All three. 188.169.22.145 (talk) 07:11, 5 August 2011 (UTC) IP user currently blocked. Makeemlighter (talk) 01:50, 8 August 2011 (UTC)
 * Support any edit of alt 2 or alt 3. Aaadddaaammm (talk) 11:34, 6 August 2011 (UTC)
 * I hope the nominator won't mind this. I'm going to add my suggested caption to Alt 3 here and in the article. With that done, I will conditionally support Alt 3 edit 1 if those changes stick. I could support Alt 3 but Alt 3 Edit 1 is in the article.  Pine (was GreenPine)  talk 04:43, 8 August 2011 (UTC)

--Makeemlighter (talk) 10:51, 11 August 2011 (UTC)