Wikipedia:Featured picture candidates/Oregon Convention Center

Oregon Convention center (Night)

 * Reason:Cool night shot. Sharp and informative. As a side note, you may be interested in what looks like a drug deal in the lower right corner. ;-)
 * Proposed caption:The Oregon Convention Center is a convention center in Portland, Oregon. It is located on the east side of the Willamette River in the Lloyd District neighborhood. The Oregon Convention Center is best known for the twin spire towers which provide light into the building's interior.
 * Articles this image appears in:Oregon Convention Center
 * Creator:User:Fcb981

* Oppose. The people are sharp, but the actual subject isn't really that sharp, and in fact it's pretty grainy.. the sky especially is very grainy. The surrounding city takes up too much of the image, and the blurry moving people mixed with solid people are distracting. Also, are there legal issues with this and that drug deal? -- ⁪ffroth 03:06, 10 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Support Self-nom. Fcb981(talk:contribs) 21:55, 9 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Is your monitor calibrated? I don't see much grain and the sky should be all but black... No legal issues with the "drug deal" I would be surprised if that is what it really is. Plus there isn't enough information for an arrest, much less a conviction. kinda funny though.-Fcb981(talk:contribs) 03:52, 10 November 2007 (UTC)
 * My monitor is fine, and besides when you zoom in with Paint, the grains are obviously part of the image data and not a monitor artifact. My second monitor is calibrated to display black-and-white text and when I put the picture on it, it looks like a starry sky from all the grains! (because the contrast is up so high). -- ⁪ffroth 19:18, 10 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Oppose as per Froth's comments, also the image needs a bit of tilt to make the verticals properly vertical. I could live with a bit of graininess in the sky given the brightness of the windows, but the ghosts are pretty distracting. "Drug deal", heh, makes ya wonder... Matt Deres 15:55, 10 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Support I do not see grains in the sky. The sky is black. The image is sharp. I could read the name of the street. A drug deal adds a special interest to the image IMO.--Mbz1 16:53, 10 November 2007 (UTC)
 * How can you not see it? Look at the crop -- ⁪ffroth 19:14, 10 November 2007 (UTC)
 * I did and I still cannot see any grain in the sky. Looks just black to me. Sorry.--Mbz1 20:25, 10 November 2007 (UTC)
 * weak support the composition seems unbalanced. I don't see any grain in the sky with my calibrated monitor. de Bivort 20:13, 10 November 2007 (UTC)
 * I took a random spot, sampled 2 adjacent sky pixels, and blew them up to 2 large rectangles. Are you telling me you can't see the difference between those 2 rectangles? -- ⁪ffroth 20:48, 10 November 2007 (UTC)
 * And what the heck, I can see the graininess in the 300px thumb that mediawiki generated! -- ⁪ffroth 20:49, 10 November 2007 (UTC)
 * It's not a matter of being unable to detect the variations in shade - I'm simply saying that I don't perceive the grain with my calibrated monitor. de Bivort 00:54, 11 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Support I see no grains, no shade variation. Even if I did, I like the image enough to give support for it anyway. SingCal 04:14, 11 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Oppose Technical quality is good but I don't really see anything worth the front page in that picture. In other words, the Oregon Convention Center is not recognizable.--Svetovid 11:52, 11 November 2007 (UTC
 * Comment None of the FP criteria put any value on the notability of the picture's subject, so it doesn't really matter how recognizable the OCC is. If this is your only reason for your vote, please reconsider. SingCal 20:15, 12 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Oppose, this is nothing special. --Aqwis 20:28, 11 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Oppose, sky is very grainy. Abstain - Edit removes grainyness but also blacks out some real data. Kaldari 19:50, 12 November 2007 (UTC)
 * You may be interested in the edit. -Fcb981(talk:contribs) 23:22, 12 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Finally a believer! -- ⁪ffroth 01:39, 13 November 2007 (UTC)
 * I still think you may have a monitor problem but you may be interested in the edit which also has the ghosts removed, and (while I couldn't see it!) I tried to remove the noise. : P -Fcb981(talk:contribs) 01:56, 13 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Yep, that resolves it entirely. In fact, what I thought was a mountain barely visible in the background was actually graininess from the city's glow o_o I withdraw my oppose, and abstain from voting on edit 1 -- ⁪ffroth 21:55, 13 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Thanks, I probably would have done better to upload an edit earlier instead of moaning about monitor calibration. ;-) -Fcb981(talk:contribs) 22:32, 13 November 2007 (UTC)
 * OpposeRagged stitching error just above the guy with the red backpack watching the drug deal. Jeff Dahl (Talk • contribs) 03:55, 14 November 2007 (UTC)

MER-C 01:23, 17 November 2007 (UTC)